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FIFYOne dayDMEl Con Hubbard's busts will be urinals
FIFYOne dayDMEl Con Hubbard's busts will be urinals
Not really.The "tech" is free -- and worth every penny.
Your post reminds me of something I did while I was a Scientologist, some 15 years ago, IIRC, well I needed the money. Anyways, which is I participated in something know as a "Focus Group", I got on a particular list to be available to participated in this. Timing was right you might say, and I needed the money.Not really.
They should pay us for reading that crap, with compensation for pain and suffering.
Double or more, if listening to an LRH tape....
nope, I attended two Focus groups, one for Jolly Rancher candy and Ford Motor Company.crikey! If they were offering that sort of money, did it include an alien anal probe?
Do you think the Cof$ OT8 is the LRH OT8? Not likely.The CofS will never be able to release the tech above OT8 for the simple reason that they have nothing to release. They need to keep people paying for their next patron status and being cozy with DM.
After OT8 all you need to do is study and apply existing materials.
Another reason they couldn't release more of what they have is that LRH has used the last few OT levels to basically debunk the grade chart in that it's all stuff you merely mocked up - bt's, engrams, reactive minds.Do you think the Cof$ OT8 is the LRH OT8? Not likely.
I think the LRH OT8 dealt with etheric implants found in the body, the "third and final wall of fire"
Lucifer;s Bridge by George M, Witek has the original OT8 on chapter 8 and once people began to lose their remaining few marbles on it they reissued a wuss version of the original, took the teeth right out of it. Now it just does nothing rather than making people even crazier. Hooray for progress in Scientology!Do you think the Cof$ OT8 is the LRH OT8? Not likely.
I think the LRH OT8 dealt with etheric implants found in the body, the "third and final wall of fire"
Reports of Hubbard in his latter years say he was raving about BTs being "everywhere".
Tabayoyon said:According to Sinar Parman, Hubbard was a psychopathic insane person screaming about BT's and clusters at the top of his lungs.
Michael A. Hobson said:I've got some idiot on SPs 'R Us citing Andre Tabayoyon's affidavit. You told me that every statement in there he attributed to you was
falsely done. May I say that ?
Sinar Parman said:Every statement he made with my name isn't true.
After I got out and decompressed, I googled my name and came up with Tabayoyon's lies. Otherwise, my name would not have been on
the web. I was shocked/surprised.
Michael A. Hobson said:Kim Baker - I have been in communication with Sinar Parman for some time. He says that every single statement in that affidavit which
Andre Tabayoyon attributed to him is both false and falsely attributed. I have just now reconfirmed this with Sinar. I have linked his FB
profile for anyone who wishes to message him about it.
Michael Hobson
Independent Scientologist"
Sarge Pfauth is quoted as saying: "Hubbard would walk around the ranch in his nightrobe, looking for “body thetans” that he said he could see."The sole source of that report (singular) was an affidavit filed by Andre Tabayoyon dated 5 Mar 1994 in the Steve Fishman (and Uwe Gertz) court case. A copy of that affidavit may be viewed on Lermanet. In it, Andre says:
This is what Sinar Parman had to say about the above affidavit in the following exchange with me Mon, Jul 9th 2012 @ 9:50 am:
I immediately posted Sinar's reply to my PM above in the Facebook group SP's R' Us at the time and included a linkback to
Sinar's FB Profile so that anyone who doubted me could verify it.
Since your reasoning is predicated upon an outright lie, ThetanExterior, your conclusions in the above comment (#29) are false, too.
Michael A. Hobson
Independent Scientologist
Ex-Sea Org and Declared SP
"Star Mist Galaxy" blew your cover. lrh would have chosen something like, Black Snake or Vapor-9 guLAXy. Just saying.
Perhaps Hubbard was caught up in a ser fac of his own manufacture in that bt's had to be real or it would make a liar out of him, or expose him as such at least. So he had to dramatize "seeing them" in order to prove he was less a kook liar and more a kook of a kook, besieged by them, shifting the blame and guilt upon "them" and away from hiself. After all no one knew more of what a fallacy they are so he could never drop his guard and had to pretend to be seeing them everywhere much in the same fashion as he pretended to be watching a ship pass by in the harbor while purporting to be exterior delivering a lecture only that it was a different vessel than normally came by at exactly that time which he was counting on to sell the course room that he was truly exterior. And the room laughed nervously...The man was a sham!Sarge Pfauth is quoted as saying: "Hubbard would walk around the ranch in his nightrobe, looking for “body thetans” that he said he could see."
Therefore your statement that "The sole source of that report (singular) was an affidavit filed by Andre Tabayoyon dated 5 Mar 1994 in the Steve Fishman (and Uwe Gertz) court case" doesn't appear to be true.
Ref: https://tonyortega.org/2016/07/11/s...aker-and-friend-steve-sarge-pfauth-1945-2016/
Sarge Pfauth is quoted as saying: "Hubbard would walk around the ranch in his nightrobe, looking for “body thetans” that he said he could see."
Therefore your statement that "The sole source of that report (singular) was an affidavit filed by Andre Tabayoyon dated 5 Mar 1994 in the Steve Fishman (and Uwe Gertz) court case" doesn't appear to be true.
Ref: https://tonyortega.org/2016/07/11/s...aker-and-friend-steve-sarge-pfauth-1945-2016/
All he (= El Con Hubbard) could do was say the same thing, over and over:
"There are more BTs! Many more than people realize!"
Hubbard really was a bit senile at the end there - his brain pretty well fried by a wide range of drugs which he used for his "research" -- and this scared the hell out of his top messengers and others near him.
Hubbard supposedly demonstrated psychic perception to Jack Parsons in the mid 1940s. Followed by decades of drug use to get inspiration for his new religion. Didn't Rudolph Steiner operate on the theory that schizophrenic hallucinations were not hallucinations but paranormal perceptions? And isn't there an expression "charming as a schizophrenic?" I suspect Hubbard was a high-functioning schizophrenic who finally finally lost it in old age. So he probably was actually seeing BTs everywhere.Perhaps Hubbard was caught up in a ser fac of his own manufacture in that bt's had to be real or it would make a liar out of him, or expose him as such at least. So he had to dramatize "seeing them" in order to prove he was less a kook liar and more a kook of a kook, besieged by them, shifting the blame and guilt upon "them" and away from hiself. After all no one knew more of what a fallacy they are so he could never drop his guard and had to pretend to be seeing them everywhere much in the same fashion as he pretended to be watching a ship pass by in the harbor while purporting to be exterior delivering a lecture only that it was a different vessel than normally came by at exactly that time which he was counting on to sell the course room that he was truly exterior. And the room laughed nervously...The man was a sham!
What this looks like to me . . . nothing else was working to resolve the currentgoes back so far as in this Broeker pic that was "ooohed" and "aaahed" over