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lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
Second paragraph: Funny, I'd have said the majority of ex-scios were righty. But maybe that's because the righties are more vocal about their views. The Trump thread (which I admit I've only lightly sampled) seems mainly about how Trump is doing great things or is being unjustly attacked and how awful Obama and Hillary are.
I think you made a point here. I also thought ex-scios were mostly righties.
 

tr8theta

I Love Kitties
Well, what a fucking hypocrite you are. You go on about 'folks being nice and respectful' and yet, when I merely pointed out that I was unhappy at you quoting Hubbard here on esmb, you told me to go and fuck myself, something no one has done in all my years of chatting on this message board.

I wouldn't trust you further than I could spit, and hell will freeze over before I post on your theety-weety fucking thread.
Geez man...didn't you see my apology?
 

tr8theta

I Love Kitties
Well, what a fucking hypocrite you are. You go on about 'folks being nice and respectful' and yet, when I merely pointed out that I was unhappy at you quoting Hubbard here on esmb, you told me to go and fuck myself, something no one has done in all my years of chatting on this message board.

I wouldn't trust you further than I could spit, and hell will freeze over before I post on your theety-weety fucking thread.
This is especially for Strativarius (and for everyone else who reads this thread)
I just sent this to Strativarius: I wrote you a sincere apology and posted it in the open forum ...and now (of course) I can't find it...so I can't prove to you that I did. I knew I should have also sent it to you personally like I'm writing to you now. Anyway what I said was "I am sincerely sorry for the GFY...that was very unbecoming of me. No excuses. The apology was longer but I don't remember exactly what else I said other than that I do respect your beliefs, opinions and feelings and although we may not agree I felt it was hurtful of you to insult me the way you originally did. Now I can't blame you for your most recent post calling me a hypocrite because apparently with no proof of my apology, it seems to you that I am...anyway, again I'm sorry for my disrespectful post. I'd like to propose a truce here because for us to continue back and forth like this isn't very nice. I am so pissed off at myself for not sending you a personal message when I posted my apology.
$25 reward to anyone who can find it ...because I went back to the thread I was sure I posted it on and I can't.
Anyway lesson learned: If you really need to post something important (like I feel my apology was to Startivarius) in the open forum...be sure to send it to them personally also. By the way Strativarius...you said above " I merely pointed out that I was unhappy at you quoting Hubbard here on ESMB" but go back and look at how you actually worded it and the names you called me. Even here in your hypocrite accusation you are being very nasty.
it just isn't necessary and I don't deserve it. Tom R
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
. . .
OK, I'll inject some Scientology into the thread. :innocent:

This message board and most message boards are based on the Hubbardian
concept of 2WC processing
. Loosely, you question the PC: "What is your attention
on right now? "What's been bothering you recently?" "What are you looking at?"

I have to say that nowadays, politics or the culture wars are pretty big on people's
minds. All the evaluation, invalidation, forcing of wrong items, suppressing of
correct items, etc. It's just terrible out in the wild. That's what's bugging them.
What the PC says, the PC says. I can't evaluate. I can't deny.

So threads get started. Since so many of us have done auditor training, we're
OK with people bringing up whatever and going on endlessly. In many cases
with no resolution ever occurring or even possible.

How's that for bringing the conversation back to Scientology? :evillaugh:


"Yeah, whatever."
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strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Here is my original post in its entirety:

Great, here we are on an ex scientologists message board and somebody is quoting Hubbard at us. WTF

I'm sorry, but I fail to see any 'names' that you accuse me of calling you. So you are being disingenuous.

And this was your charming response:

so what if you don't like it GFY
By the way, I'm known as a bit of a grammar Nazi and pedant around here, so let me put you straight. First of all, sentences begin with a capital letter, so that should have been 'So what if you don't like it GFY'. Secondly, if I were you I'd have put a comma after the word what, so it would read, 'So what, if you don't like it GFY'. Finally, I really really think another comma wouldn't go amiss after the word 'it', so it would read 'So what, if you don't like it, GFY'.

Moral: If you had insulted me using better grammar and punctuation, maybe I would have had a little more respect for you.

I'm not the 'forgive and forget' type. If you think your response was justified, so be it, I'm not going to argue the toss with you and I've got nothing more to say on this or any other subject to you.

This is especially for Strativarius (and for everyone else who reads this thread)
I just sent this to Strativarius: I wrote you a sincere apology and posted it in the open forum ...and now (of course) I can't find it...so I can't prove to you that I did. I knew I should have also sent it to you personally like I'm writing to you now. Anyway what I said was "I am sincerely sorry for the GFY...that was very unbecoming of me. No excuses. The apology was longer but I don't remember exactly what else I said other than that I do respect your beliefs, opinions and feelings and although we may not agree I felt it was hurtful of you to insult me the way you originally did. Now I can't blame you for your most recent post calling me a hypocrite because apparently with no proof of my apology, it seems to you that I am...anyway, again I'm sorry for my disrespectful post. I'd like to propose a truce here because for us to continue back and forth like this isn't very nice. I am so pissed off at myself for not sending you a personal message when I posted my apology.
$25 reward to anyone who can find it ...because I went back to the thread I was sure I posted it on and I can't.
Anyway lesson learned: If you really need to post something important (like I feel my apology was to Startivarius) in the open forum...be sure to send it to them personally also. By the way Strativarius...you said above " I merely pointed out that I was unhappy at you quoting Hubbard here on ESMB" but go back and look at how you actually worded it and the names you called me. Even here in your hypocrite accusation you are being very nasty.
it just isn't necessary and I don't deserve it. Tom R
 
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DagwoodGum

Squirreling Dervish
You know what? Not to jinx it and I'll really get down on myself for feeling the need to express every little thing that pops in and out of my head if it does, but it sure appears that since so many people, from Emma on down, got a chance to clear the air on that "other" thread yesterday that more people are enjoying themselves today posting than a couple of days ago. I woke up a little while ago from my daily nap and I saw a flurry of posts and people did really seem to be enjoying themselves so perhaps it was cathartic to a certain extent. Just saying...
Now back to local programming, never mind!
 
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tr8theta

I Love Kitties
Here is my original post in its entirety:



I'm sorry, but I fail to see any 'names' that you accuse me of calling you.

And this was your charming response:



I'm not the 'forgive and forget' type. If you think your response was justified, so be it, I'm not going to argue the toss with you and I've got nothing more to say on this or any other subject to you.
Um...look if you're going to post what was said between us...please do so accurately:
In response to my quoting LRH ( as well as JC) your exact words were:
"Great, here we are on an ex scientologists message board and somebody is quoting Hubbard at us. WTF!" = What The Fuck! = Nasty
Then as I admitted to saying and have now apologized for to you twice now, personally and in the open forum for saying "So what if you don't like it GFY". To which you replied: "I think you must be a little bit confused me old china, this message board is for ex scientologists. We don't need any more of Hubbard's old bollocks*** here, why don't you try the freakzone where you'll be among friends" to which I simply stated that it's called EX-Scientologists Message Board NOT ANTI-Scientologists Message Board.
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***bol·locks
ˈbäləks/Submit
BRITISHvulgar slang
noun
1.
the testicles.
2.
used to express contempt, annoyance, or defiance.

So you now say I'm sorry, but I fail to see any 'names' that you accuse me of calling you. Duh? I don't know about anybody else here but I'd rather not be called LRH's testicles or infer that I am a freak.
Then you go further so as to post this about my "Just Whatever you Wanna" thread:
Well, what a fucking hypocrite you are. You go on about 'folks being nice and respectful' and yet, when I merely pointed out that I was unhappy at you quoting Hubbard here on esmb (yeah Strat...in a very NASTY way) , you told me to go and fuck myself, something no one has done in all my years of chatting on this message board.
I wouldn't trust you further than I could spit, and hell will freeze over before I post on your theety-weety fucking thread.

So instead of accepting my apology and proposal that we have atruce and END this back and forth thing you post this (above)
I'm not the 'forgive and forget' type. If you think your response was justified, so be it, I'm not going to argue the toss with you and I've got nothing more to say on this or any other subject to you.

Furthermore, if you are incapable of being decent enough to accept somebody's sincere apology and offer of a truce stated to you personally as well as openly in the forum then it simply speaks of your nasty lack of manners persona.
Lastly, right back at ya "I've got nothing more to say on this or any other subject to you" if THAT's the way you want to be about it.
Now we can END this ...like I politely proposed...or you can keep it going if you must.
 
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F.Bullbait

Oh, a wise guy,eh?
Wow, for a moment I thought this was the TR2 thread and was reading a demo of the non-comm course.

Now I see it is the politics thread... carry on! :D

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phenomanon

Canyon
I don't want to seem pedantic Dagwood, but I was puzzled by your phrase 'no harm, no fowl' so, not having come across it before and being vaguely interested in the English language, I looked it up. Apparently there is a similar phrase, but it's 'no harm, no foul'. Just thought you might like to know for future reference. :)
LOL!
Itsa true fact!:cheers:
 

Type4_PTS

Diamond Invictus SP
You might like my new thread "Just whatever you wanna" where you CAN freely talk about anything other than SCN...but (sorry) I did ask that there be no discussion about politics or religion only because the purpose of my creating this thread was for folks to have a place to have fun, be at ease, unwind - no heavy crap - no doom and gloom. Hope to see your posts there. TR
Recently I've only been able to be here on ESMB very briefly each day, so only typically following several threads at a time, if that.

Maybe I'll make it there one of these days. :unsure:
 
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Helena Handbasket

Gold Meritorious Patron
...there is nothing keeping anyone from starting a Hillary Thread or some equivalent....
The thing is, Hillary is just a straight ahead corrupt politician....
Clinton is the very embodiment of politics as usual. She is so much a part of "the system" that she and her friends simply cannot conceive of anyone outside the system being taken seriously. That's why they were all surprised by Trump winning the election.

(Not that I'm supporting Trump here. In fact, I'm still waiting for him to say just one thing that makes sense.)


Helena
 
Why? He is the end result of political correctness gone mad and now we need to ride this wave in order to (hopefully) regain a more balanced political climate.
For me - he's a slow motion train wreck. The current US political madness is a real life soap opera replete with villains, con men, flim flam artists, obfuscation, porn stars, separated children and parents, rampant racism, a WWF bout between the Pres an the NFL, the world economy hanging on a string, yoyoing up and down at The Donald's fumbling, ineptness and warped world view, his trolling world leaders, love for despots, erasure of everything Obama, mucho fake news, his draining the swamp and refilling it with billionaire hucksters, lunatic Giuliani with his Truth isn't Truth rant - reminiscent of Hubbard's: "reality is what you agree it is" nonsense. Almost every day is a ho-hum crasher, only to end up lining the bottom of the twitter bird's cage, as the next gaffe, proclamation, juvenile name calling Tweet plasters the last over, and the attempts to reign him in only incenses him, resulting in his doubling down. At the rate he's losing "All the best people" he may end up running the country by himself.

It's a real live reality show, with the Apprentice Ringmaster running amuck. The audience is enraptured, unaware the pillars of society are wobbling back and forth, law and order and the agencies that protect them are under fire as he tries to avoid being sucked into Muller's quagmire, and its threat of eventual exposure of his witch hunt ties to Putin.

Hell, Hubbard was loony tunes but, with Marty MIA, who better to astound us then his doppelganger - Trump?

It's like that cry from the back of the concert hall "More cowbell!!!"

Mimsey

 
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