I thought the self-auditing definition was more like taking a list and asking yourself the questions and answering. Like the Self Analysis book.Depending on what the journal covers.
If it gets too personal, it could be considered 'self-auditing' which would not be allowed.
Solo auditing in the sense of doing a prescribed set of procedures (like Self Analysis) would be allowed if the Case Supervisor says so.I thought the self-auditing definition was more like taking a list and asking yourself the questions and answering. Like the Self Analysis book.
So, the org would frown on this practice even though it is on the org board on the LOC?
the self analysis book is solo auditing in that you have this little wheel provided in the book to audit yourself. You know, recall times, recall perceptions, recall this or that. However in the book Self Analysis Hubbard claims you are not actually solo auditing but using the commands or questions asked to recall, thus Hubbard is the auditor, thus not solo auditing, this is Hubbards rhetoric.Solo auditing in the sense of doing a prescribed set of procedures (like Self Analysis) would be allowed if the Case Supervisor says so.
Self auditing without a pattern or following a strict procedure (like writing deep thoughts about yourself and why you did this or that or have certain 'issues') would be frowned upon.
One of the definitions of Self Auditing says, "Solo auditing occurs in session with a meter. Self-auditing is out-of-session wondering and chewing on bank." ("Bank" is generally the person's case.)
That's right. I was reminiscing with my friend the other day. He recalled a time when he was happy. And I asked him, "what smell did you get in the perceptic?" Then he reminded me of the time when we were having a great time at a party together. Great recall. And, at his prompting, I recalled the compass direction in which I was facing. A nice, natural-flowing reminiscence about the good ol' days.I liken the SA lists in the book with the little wheel as recalling good old times. One can do this with friends such as high school reunions, just friends anywhere or anyhow, or having a party inviting one's friends without the little wheel. LOL
I was doing transcendental meditation when I found Scn. I started doing the SA lists, since they were free, and soon found I felt a lot more calm after doing them than I did from meditation twice a day.I liken the SA lists in the book with the little wheel as recalling good old times. One can do this with friends such as high school reunions, just friends anywhere or anyhow, or having a party inviting one's friends without the little wheel. LOL
I've done both of the above doing conditions formulas and it seems you would have to. Same with O/W write ups.Self auditing without a pattern or following a strict procedure (like writing deep thoughts about yourself and why you did this or that or have certain 'issues') would be frowned upon.
Self-auditing is out-of-session wondering and chewing on bank." ("Bank" is generally the person's case.)
that's a goofy comment. They would never do that, an OT8 would never be sent home to do FPRD lists. FPRD lists are by an auditor and a person, no solo auditing.An OT 8 that went to the ship for an ethics interview was sent home with a couple of FPRD lists and told to go over the list to jog their memory and write up their O/Ws. Would that be considered self-auditing?
when you do O/W's you are being controlled, by the rhetoric or hypnotic operator, that is LRH. LOLI've done both of the above doing conditions formulas and it seems you would have to. Same with O/W write ups.
It seems anything that might make you feel good is frowned upon. The taboo list was meditation, yoga, acupuncture, massage, astrology, counseling, aromatherapy, etc.
The OT 8 was told to use the lists as a tool to help jog recall of past O/Ws to write up that may have been forgotten. It was not used to run a solo FPRD.that's a goofy comment. They would never do that, an OT8 would never be sent home to do FPRD lists. FPRD lists are by an auditor and a person, no solo auditing.
dude, I'm married to a OT8. You speak complete and utter conjecture.The OT 8 was told to use the lists as a tool to help jog recall of past O/Ws to write up that may have been forgotten. It was not used to run a solo FPRD.
Perhaps this would be considered Squirreling today. Prepared Lists were also used to recruit people prefaced with "On joining staff..." around that same time period.
I am surprised that any listing would be done outside of auditing sessions.The OT 8 was told to use the lists as a tool to help jog recall of past O/Ws to write up that may have been forgotten. It was not used to run a solo FPRD.
Perhaps this would be considered Squirreling today. Prepared Lists were also used to recruit people prefaced with "On joining staff..." around that same time period.
I was a Class V C/S and FPRD auditor. The idea of giving someone some FPRD lists to prompt their memory of O/Ws seems to me to be nuts. If I'd heard of someone doing this I would have written a KR on them.An OT 8 that went to the ship for an ethics interview was sent home with a couple of FPRD lists and told to go over the list to jog their memory and write up their O/Ws. Would that be considered self-auditing?
Perhaps I did not make this clear.dude, I'm married to a OT8. You speak complete and utter conjecture.
OT8 is done on the ship with an auditor, and not solo auditing as done on OT7.
Totally agree!I was a Class V C/S and FPRD auditor. The idea of giving someone some FPRD lists to prompt their memory of O/Ws seems to me to be nuts. If I'd heard of someone doing this I would have written a KR on them.
You are relaying a story that you said you heard about from someone else.Perhaps I did not make this clear.
The person did OT 8 on the ship with an auditor. At a later date, after doing OT 8, and returning to the ship to do a course, an ethics cycle was done on this person.
The FPRD Lists were NOT used as a solo auditing action. It was used as a tool to assist their memory in writing up O/Ws. This person was NOT told to run the FPRD on themselves.