SmellYaThetaBitch
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Hmm i may have a few things that came across my desk. I held so many hats its astounding.
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LRH talking about OT III (the Xenu stuff), from Ron's Journal 67:it is very important to note that taking all materials literally is mentioned as low toned in SOS an in point of fact Xenu, Helatrobus etc are not presented as articles of faith
Gads!LRH talking about OT III (the Xenu stuff), from Ron's Journal 67:
"I went out and took my life in my hands, you might say, and brought the matter off. The mystery of this universe and this particular area of the universe has been – as far as its track is concerned – completely occluded. No one has ever been able to make any breakthrough and come off with it and know what happened. As a matter of fact, it is so occluded that, if anyone tried to penetrate it, as I’m sure many have, they died.
The material involved in this sector is so vicious that it is carefully arranged to kill anyone if he discovers the exact truth of it.
So in January and February of this year, I became very ill, almost lost this body, and somehow or another brought it off and obtained the material, and was able to live through it. I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material. This material I’m talking about, of course, is very upper level material and you will forgive me if I don’t describe it to you in very broad detail because it’s very likely to make you sick, too."
http://suppressiveperson.org/1967/09/20/transcript-rons-journal-67/
Sure sounds to me like he wanted us to take it literally.
It was a fave for staff tape play night.Gads!
And to think, I actually bought into that phony baloney bullshit at one time. Geez...
Don't forget the mandatory three 'hip hip, hooray!'s.It was a fave for staff tape play night.
Don't forget the mandatory three 'hip hip, hooray!'s.
I never minded the three, 'hip hip, hooray!'s to LRH because I genuinely felt a tremendous love and admiration for the man while I was in the cult.Man that almost always creeped me out when I was younger. Too bad I didn't know anything about Cults. Whenever someone said it's a cult I immediately though occult, goat sacrifice and satan worship. Then again, I wasn't far from it on the satan bit.
(can't find a barf emoji either... **wahhh*
I did not mid the "hip-hip" stuff. I felt its a ceremonial ritual in the same way people address the buddha in a chant or say hail Mary and stuff. Wasn't a big fan, but didn't care.Man that almost always creeped me out when I was younger. Too bad I didn't know anything about Cults. Whenever someone said it's a cult I immediately though occult, goat sacrifice and satan worship. Then again, I wasn't far from it on the satan bit.
(can't find a barf emoji either... **wahhh*
LRH talking about OT III (the Xenu stuff), from Ron's Journal 67:
"I went out and took my life in my hands, you might say, and brought the matter off. The mystery of this universe and this particular area of the universe has been – as far as its track is concerned – completely occluded. No one has ever been able to make any breakthrough and come off with it and know what happened. As a matter of fact, it is so occluded that, if anyone tried to penetrate it, as I’m sure many have, they died.
The material involved in this sector is so vicious that it is carefully arranged to kill anyone if he discovers the exact truth of it.
So in January and February of this year, I became very ill, almost lost this body, and somehow or another brought it off and obtained the material, and was able to live through it. I am very sure that I was the first one that ever did live through any attempt to attain that material. This material I’m talking about, of course, is very upper level material and you will forgive me if I don’t describe it to you in very broad detail because it’s very likely to make you sick, too."
http://suppressiveperson.org/1967/09/20/transcript-rons-journal-67/
Sure sounds to me like he wanted us to take it literally.
Man that almost always creeped me out when I was younger. Too bad I didn't know anything about Cults. Whenever someone said it's a cult I immediately though occult, goat sacrifice and satan worship. Then again, I wasn't far from it on the satan bit.
(can't find a barf emoji either... **wahhh*
"Many"? Really. Name one.It does sound as though he meant it to be taken seriously and it can be taken seriously w/o being taken literally
Do I take it seriously?
As I've said before on this board, anyone who wants my complimentary tickets to the next Xenu and the BT's concert is welcome to them.
However...
Many people who have left the church continue to speak well of their experience with the level and this is to be respected by all honest and serious critics of the subject and the organization.
Which is not to say their ribald badinage should be silenced in such appropriate arenas as ESMB
Susan Madonald"Many"? Really. Name one.
Yeah, no. Like I said, she hasn't "left the church" she only changed denominations. One person who has left Scientology who speaks well today of Xenu and the BTs.Susan Madonald
Cool. I never said or implied that people don't have freedom of opinion and speech. If you think I've said that, prove it. Quote where I've said that.So Bill, by your standards someone has not left the church unless they renounce the tech in it' entirety.
Many who have left still speak well of much of the tech including OTIII.
I will continue to respect them for it.
And to respect your own freedom of opinion and speech
Hubbard used the same tactic Clay,I've accused you of nothing either in word or thought Bill.
Yes, many who have left renounce the work in entirety
We don't have any numbers on who was there and still speak well of it but you can be certain those ho think well of it greatly outnumber those who speak well of it.
And certain as well that many trash it because their environment calls for it; the old "spit on the cross to show you're a Roman" game
My point, CP, is that contrary to what you state in the post quoted here ^^^^, the Xenu bit IS DEFINITELY being presented as an article of faith in what I quoted from Ron's Journal 67.it is very important to note that taking all materials literally is mentioned as low toned in SOS an in point of fact Xenu, Helatrobus etc are not presented as articles of faith