I am a Class VI C/S Ex FSO member from 2005

[Flag-2005]

I have never viewed anti-scientology materials but ran across one famous actor in the tech films who has now left and who is speaking out.

I was in shock as I joined the SO due to his Ls completion win from Flag that I saw on video in Australia.

I called Flag direct and jumped on a plane within a week. I regg-ed myself and they could not believe it.

I was even promised the SHSBC!

I was there at FSO for three years and overall I was in Ethics getting handled for a year of that. Literally sitting in Ethics for months at a time until I got my way.

But still here is what I did in my gung ho way and against all odds.

I arrived EPF, 2002 then passed to Superpower line up so into the TTC.

I did Trs etc through KTL, LOC all the Levels through to Grad V

I then fought and went direct to the SHSBC. (this is a story in itself)

I completed the SHSBC in half checksheet time and also the internship and then as I was still in the TTC waiting for Superpower I continued to study.

So I did every Flag only r/d, every Green Vol, data evaluators, Supervisor course - I mean everything ( but only half way through Green Vol 6 ) and every other available course.

I am mid action 15 NED and in many open FPRD and other Int issued programs.

But here is the thing mis-application of the tech is not the tech.

But the third dynamic is so structured to destroy 1st dynamic wins.

For the public and the staff.

Example: I completed my Class VI internship in under checksheet time.

How do you pass? You just get a perfect video to RTC.

How do you get this video? Easy - just short session your Pcs and get in a lot of worthless but good looking sessions.

Believe me I am good.. I have given great sessions - PCs blown out. I was killing myself for doing this but thought it is the greatest good to just get the training done.

But hand in those videos and I'd be in Ethics forever, because I did it for the PC.

Actually its not quite true because my passing video was spectacular and even the intern sup was impressed and told me so.

Example: most staff are PTS to the schedule and lifestyle. Restim of past prison camps. It is horrible to be an SO member and I used to audit the execs.

The amount of 2nd Dynamic upset takes up most of staff auditing time. Alot of people have not been without their 2d for years, different posting RPF etc.

Still I wrote all this up and I actually thought it would be addressed.

I completed my Class VI C/S and even routed onto the Solo 1 course without being Clear. There are no other courses to do

I was then announced at staff meeting to become a Class XII.

I am young male and in for about two years at this point, on NED Class VI CS.

Walking around Flag I should have been so proud but in reality Im like all the others. Hiding form my seniors, avoiding security, trying to get some sleep under my auditing table hiding from the camera in the FH.

Funny when I look back.

Is this natter? Well I do have overts.

I was then placed into the hands of RTC for a project and within months I was a declared SP.

I lost my wife.

Its pretty hard when I gave away every asset. I was in a foreign country and I had distanced myself from my family.

To treat people like shit is discusting and off-policy.

But what does any SO Org know of policy????

Let me ask this question.. And I did in numerous KRs.

How many trainees in the ATC?

How many future execs are we grooming? the answer 0 not one.

Well I was the only one but I was in the TTC and my seniors were livid I was doing these courses. I literally routed myself on and convinced the sups to protect me and they loved my stats

But this is serious!!!

All execs are only trained on post via verbal orders. Verbal tech is all through the Admin terminals.

Some Execs are BSM failures BUT they work long hours, never on study and are easily invalidated and forced to just follow orders.

This was my enemy and i fought it and lost!

I have my training and its a lot of good stuff.

Why was I declared? My Comm Ev was 1/2 an hour long held after staff briefing at midnight. My com ev members just wanted to go home and so did I.

It was already decided I was out.. the evidence was pathetic. Why?

I was writing up out tech on the 3rd Dynamic and I mean alot of KRs. on anybody, them all based on off-policy that are implemented by Execs.

I thought I would be congratulated due to my Data Series skills and perfect KRs and on policy solutions I had offered for the better of the entire group.

I was auditing RTC members, I was trialling Superpower R/Ds I was in and going to change conditions for the better.

Its a shame because I still want this.

I was only going to say hi but..

I have said enough just so anyone else there at this time may know me and feel free to pm me if you like.

I do want to warn you that I am declared and so if you are an active Scientologist you should not contact me. If you are not then feel free.

Signed...

I still want to fix it..

Just like jason beghe says - if Scientology works there is something very wrong right now.

Scientology works if done for caring purposes and not for vested reasons.

[Dulloldfart]

Hi there, and welcome to ESMB.

Dozens of people on this board are declared, so don't worry about tainting others.

Recent news about the nitty-gritty of life with GAT is welcome. What's with the Superpower lineup? Are there any trainees labelled as such?

Paul

[sallydannce]

A warm welcome to you Flag-2005.

You have had a wild time. Relax, you are amongst friends here.

[Vinaire]

Originally Posted by Flag-2005

I have never viewed anti-scientology materials but ran across one famous actor in the tech films who has now left and who is speaking out.

I was in shock as I joined the SO due to his Ls completion win from Flag that I saw on video in Australia.

I called Flag direct and jumped on a plane within a week. I regg-ed myself and they could not believe it.

I was even promised the SHSBC!

I was there at FSO for three years and overall I was in Ethics getting handled for a year of that. Literally sitting in Ethics for months at a time until I got my way.

But still here is what I did in my gung ho way and against all odds.

I arrived EPF, 2002 then passed to Superpower line up so into the TTC.

I did Trs etc through KTL, LOC all the Levels through to Grad V

I then fought and went direct to the SHSBC. (this is a story in itself)

I completed the SHSBC in half checksheet time and also the internship and then as I was still in the TTC waiting for Superpower I continued to study.

So I did every Flag only r/d, every Green Vol, data evaluators, Supervisor course - I mean everything ( but only half way through Green Vol 6 ) and every other available course.

I am mid action 15 NED and in many open FPRD and other Int issued programs.

But here is the thing mis-application of the tech is not the tech.

But the third dynamic is so structured to destroy 1st dynamic wins.

For the public and the staff.

Example: I completed my Class VI internship in under checksheet time.

How do you pass? You just get a perfect video to RTC.

How do you get this video? Easy - just short session your Pcs and get in a lot of worthless but good looking sessions.

Believe me I am good.. I have given great sessions - PCs blown out. I was killing myself for doing this but thought it is the greatest good to just get the training done.

But hand in those videos and I'd be in Ethics forever, because I did it for the PC.

Actually its not quite true because my passing video was spectacular and even the intern sup was impressed and told me so.

Example: most staff are PTS to the schedule and lifestyle. Restim of past prison camps. It is horrible to be an SO member and I used to audit the execs.

The amount of 2nd Dynamic upset takes up most of staff auditing time. Alot of people have not been without their 2d for years, different posting RPF etc.

Still I wrote all this up and I actually thought it would be addressed.

I completed my Class VI C/S and even routed onto the Solo 1 course without being Clear. There are no other courses to do

I was then announced at staff meeting to become a Class XII.

I am young male and in for about two years at this point, on NED Class VI CS.

Walking around Flag I should have been so proud but in reality Im like all the others. Hiding form my seniors, avoiding security, trying to get some sleep under my auditing table hiding from the camera in the FH.

Funny when I look back.

Is this natter? Well I do have overts.

I was then placed into the hands of RTC for a project and within months I was a declared SP.

I lost my wife.

Its pretty hard when I gave away every asset. I was in a foreign country and I had distanced myself from my family.

To treat people like shit is discusting and off-policy.

But what does any SO Org know of policy????

Let me ask this question.. And I did in numerous KRs.

How many trainees in the ATC?

How many future execs are we grooming? the answer 0 not one.

Well I was the only one but I was in the TTC and my seniors were livid I was doing these courses. I literally routed myself on and convinced the sups to protect me and they loved my stats

But this is serious!!!

All execs are only trained on post via verbal orders. Verbal tech is all through the Admin terminals.

Some Execs are BSM failures BUT they work long hours, never on study and are easily invalidated and forced to just follow orders.

This was my enemy and i fought it and lost!

I have my training and its a lot of good stuff.

Why was I declared? My Comm Ev was 1/2 an hour long held after staff briefing at midnight. My com ev members just wanted to go home and so did I.

It was already decided I was out.. the evidence was pathetic. Why?

I was writing up out tech on the 3rd Dynamic and I mean alot of KRs. on anybody, them all based on off-policy that are implemented by Execs.

I thought I would be congratulated due to my Data Series skills and perfect KRs and on policy solutions I had offered for the better of the entire group.

I was auditing RTC members, I was trialling Superpower R/Ds I was in and going to change conditions for the better.

Its a shame because I still want this.

I was only going to say hi but..

I have said enough just so anyone else there at this time may know me and feel free to pm me if you like.

I do want to warn you that I am declared and so if you are an active Scientologist you should not contact me. If you are not then feel free.

Signed...

I still want to fix it..

Just like jason beghe says - if Scientology works there is something very wrong right now.

Scientology works if done for caring purposes and not for vested reasons.

Congratulations! You have just graduated from Scientology.

Now get busy with creating your own Bridge.

.

[Zander]

Fascinating stuff and an excellent first post!

Welcome, and I look forward to hearing a lot more from you

Zander

[Flag-2005]

The Superpower had 30+ trainees in 2002 and the number was about double in 2005.

We got new recruits daily from public and orgs, even OOTs are snatched.

Its a stat push that crumbles and creates a long term flap.

People are just trying to protect their stats, avoid trouble and maybe get a libs day to run to the movies.

Care is gone.. Now its an appearance.

The tech is what is on paper and Flag could be such a wonderful place for staf and public.

90% of new members routed out and so the building is not a rush..

To place new people into such full on training kills them and we all loose.

The Superpower building is a long way off. But I have no information for 3 years.

Any news on stats would be great. Also news on my ex-wife if anyone knows..

Flag cannot get staff to stay and that is suppressive.

I actually was inside the computer system oneday trying to get the exact numbers of routed in and routed out. Just to have a graph with my write ups.

This is what pushed me out.. I was looking at things that would be considered out PR if exposed, funny thing is we hide these outpoints from our own group.

I always think the truth should be revieled.

Beleive me some people move up the bridge and get wins and like it as public.

I dont want them to contact me.

Also please respect my privacy so if you know me keep my name private please.

[Dulloldfart]

Thanks. In 2005, were they training the SuperPower trainees on any kind of SuperPower issues, or just on the usual line-up?

As for not wanting them to contact you, you're declared, right? It's not like you stand to lose friends or family by being disconnected from them. I suggest you think about coming out into the open--personally I found it wonderfully liberating. It's simple PTS tech--instead of cowering away in the shadows come out into the sunshine and tell them to go fuck themselves.

Paul

[Flag-2005]

The Superpower R/Ds are only for Auditors with set pre-reqs.

Should be Grad V

Also this is where KTL and LOC come from so you have to do them

Due to no-one making it, KTL etc and others got dropped off the line up.

But these courses are the fundimental so go figure..

I refused to take them off my TIP got in trouble, I fought and just did it.

This is a story by itself..

Loved by my peers and hated by my seniors..

Pushing buttons like I did gave me a great insite to what I consider the outpoints.

For the SHSBC

I was sitting in Ethics for three months, no ethics officer could handle me.

I was promised the BC by my FSO terminal before arriving so I say 'deliver what is promised'.

The Captain FSO personally approved my CSW after I had driven everyone mad.

They were not so mad when months later I was on stage as a SHSBC completion, standing ovation.. funny that

"tell them to go fuck themselves"

I did this already and thats why I am on the outside.

But its to specific people and not generally..

But in reality you will hear every ex Scio with any credibilty saying that the members are great people.

We join because of the tech and to help.

Where does it go wrong? Well everyone has opinion..

[Alan]

Originally Posted by Flag-2005

Where does it go wrong?

It goes wrong when someone super-imposes their goals on you, another or others.

Hubbard abandoned "own goals" tech in 1964 - in order to super-impose his goals on you, and others.

[nexus100]

Originally Posted by Flag-2005

The Superpower R/Ds are only for Auditors with set pre-reqs.

Should be Grad V

Also this is where KTL and LOC come from so you have to do them

Due to no-one making it, KTL etc and others got dropped off the line up.

But these courses are the fundimental so go figure..

I refused to take them off my TIP got in trouble, I fought and just did it.

This is a story by itself..

Loved by my peers and hated by my seniors..

Pushing buttons like I did gave me a great insite to what I consider the outpoints.

For the SHSBC

I was sitting in Ethics for three months, no ethics officer could handle me.

I was promised the BC by my FSO terminal before arriving so I say 'deliver what is promised'.

The Captain FSO personally approved my CSW after I had driven everyone mad.

They were not so mad when months later I was on stage as a SHSBC completion, standing ovation.. funny that

"tell them to go fuck themselves"

I did this already and thats why I am on the outside.

But its to specific people and not generally..

But in reality you will hear every ex Scio with any credibilty saying that the members are great people.

We join because of the tech and to help.

Where does it go wrong? Well everyone has opinion..

I suspect you strongly need a beer. Possibly with a shot of bourbon in it. I believe they call this a "boilermaker".

There are other options, I encourage you to investigate.

But not with any seriousness. My lad, you have been shown the golden road the end of which is a pot of manure. Congratulations and welcome to the world. It isn't half as bad as you think and is twice as good as you've left behind.