Message from a friend still in

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

A dutch genious? Could it be? Could SP actually be
KOOS NOLST TRENITE?

The Ambassador For Mankind, come back to save us?

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/koostrenite.htm

What cause you to think that PB? You got strange thoughts sometimes - do they come in units of three?

You think we NEED saving? or WORTH saving?

EP/Roy

[FlunkedForLaughing]

Ignore the Scientology trolls on this board. They post their comments to cause confusion, distraction, and enturbulation. Recognise it, but don't respond to it. Notice how often it comes from the same few people.

Now let's get back to the subject at hand.

FFL

[Ananon]

Err...SP is from Denmark, Koos Nolst Trenite is from Germany, I happen to be Dutch.

Feral and Pitpull: those are three different countries jah :-).

[FlunkedForLaughing]

EP, thanks for posting your friends email. It sounds like me when I was first breaking the mental chains of Scn. He has all these unanswered questions, and he is looking for answers. Tell him to keep looking. The process can take a while to come to grips with it all, especially the realization that the Bridge To Total Freedom is actually The Bridge To Total Enslavement. There are some wins along the way (which he has experienced), but the overall path is enslavement. Not good. Not what is sold. Not what I can agree with.

Here are some things he might like to read:

The Scientological Onion http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost....83&postcount=1

What is expected from you as a Life Long Scientologist http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=169

A Documented History of Scientology http://forums.enturbulation.org/8-ed...entology-7937/

A Piece Of Blue Sky http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

ANDRE TABAYOYON AFFIDAVIT http://www.holysmoke.org/sm/tabayoyon.htm

Bare-Faced Messiah http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm

How Brainwashing Works http://people.howstuffworks.com/brai....htm/printable

Susan MacDonald Public Announcement http://www.freezone.org/reports/SMcDonald.htm

Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html

The "Church of Scientology" or the Guru's Gulags — Story of an Escape http://www.xenu-directory.net/accoun...iti199705.html

FFL

[Pitbull]

No, my friend, from what I can gather, Koos was Dutch, but must have moved to Germany at some point.

Here he graciously deigns to tell of his humble beginnings:

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/k...te/ri-480i.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld/

[EP - Ethics Particle]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

No, my friend, from what I can gather, Koos was Dutch, but must have moved to Germany at some point.

Here he graciously deigns to tell of his humble beginnings:

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/k...te/ri-480i.htm

PB, I personally find Koos absolutely fascinating, often hilarious and sometimes extremely insightful. Have you ever read Wm Falkner's "The Sound and the Fury"? My point being that until you can do that with understanding, you are not really a "Southerner" and it takes a real, trained and educated scientologist to see through and "get" Koos' writings. At least that is my opinion based upon thousands of hours of study and application. Koos was, bty, all of those things as any peer will easily see.

Now, this Koos business can go elsewhere. Thank you for the links.

Roy

[dchoiceisalwaysrs]

Great post FFL

It appears you certainly did not get flunked for doing your homework or having a rather comprehensive understanding of the subject.

With your understanding, I would appreciate it if you criticized my theory.

[klidov]

I just came back from reading:

The "Church of Scientology" or the Guru's Gulags — Story of an Escape http://www.xenu-directory.net/accoun...iti199705.html

I meant to only bookmark it, for later. I don't think I can find the words to describe how I am feeling right now.

[Thrak]

Originally Posted by FlunkedForLaughing

EP, thanks for posting your friends email. It sounds like me when I was first breaking the mental chains of Scn. He has all these unanswered questions, and he is looking for answers. Tell him to keep looking. The process can take a while to come to grips with it all, especially the realization that the Bridge To Total Freedom is actually The Bridge To Total Enslavement. There are some wins along the way (which he has experienced), but the overall path is enslavement. Not good. Not what is sold. Not what I can agree with.

Here are some things he might like to read:

The Scientological Onion http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost....83&postcount=1

What is expected from you as a Life Long Scientologist http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=169

A Documented History of Scientology http://forums.enturbulation.org/8-ed...entology-7937/

A Piece Of Blue Sky http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/

ANDRE TABAYOYON AFFIDAVIT http://www.holysmoke.org/sm/tabayoyon.htm

Bare-Faced Messiah http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm

How Brainwashing Works http://people.howstuffworks.com/brai....htm/printable

Susan MacDonald Public Announcement http://www.freezone.org/reports/SMcDonald.htm

Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html

The "Church of Scientology" or the Guru's Gulags — Story of an Escape http://www.xenu-directory.net/accoun...iti199705.html

FFL

Thanks for the post, some good links.

[klidov]

Originally Posted by Pitbull

No, my friend, from what I can gather, Koos was Dutch, but must have moved to Germany at some point.

Here he graciously deigns to tell of his humble beginnings:

http://www.insolitology.com/topten/k...te/ri-480i.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld/

Speaking for myself (and I am sure most of us), I do not redirect easily. Nor do I allow myself to be caught up in debating details.

In otherwards, attempting to "handle" me will result in frustration for you, and a major win for me.

I encourage others not to feed the Troll.