A Scientologist on trial for double murder: A story the church is very nervous about

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  1. RSS Feed

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    There is a new post up at the Underground Bunker

    A Scientologist on trial for double murder: A story the church is very nervous about

    [Kenny Thompson]

    Kenny Thompson’s mother had questionable taste in men. Dad One — Kenny’s biological father — skipped out when he was two years old.

    Maybe that contributed to keeping him from starting to speak until he was four.

    By then, Mom was with the new guy, the one named Craig who was sort of Dad [...]

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  2. Leland

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  3. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    So there are now three newsworthy cases where defendants have some tangential connection to Scientology where Scientology beliefs or influence could become part of court testimony.

    Taiwanese man's death in Australia.

    Nxivm.

    And this.
     
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  4. strativarius

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    A Happy New Year for the lawn ornament.



    Not.
     
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  5. TheOriginalBigBlue

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    Right, OSA has a busy year ahead. For the possible exception of the Taiwanese man's death one thing these all have in common is they are others doing things to others, so there is a limit to how they can influence the outcome without obviously interfering with the judicial process.

    If a legal precedent is established by virtue of some aspect of Scientology what can they do about it? If someone is found insane because they believed things like the Scientology Code of Honor, “Never fear to hurt another in a just cause.” that could be a serious problem.

    https://www.culteducation.com/group/1284-scientology/23047-scientologys-code-of-honor.html
     
  6. freethinker

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    It has been said by firefighters that they fear long periods of no fire because when they start up again, it's usually many and severe. Been a long time since Marty was the big story. There will likely be more. We're only in January.
     
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  7. freethinker

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    What a crazy story that was. Kenny does not look like a happy dude. This family was a tragedy magnet and the Arizona authorities did not help. In fact they exacerbated the situation. Had they let the kids stay with Kenny and Gloria this whole thing may have been a happy ending.
     
  8. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    For sure the Arizona authorities didn't help and put the kids into a bad situation.

    But being raised by Scientologists can also be very bad. :omg:
     
  9. freethinker

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    If they had left the kids with Kenny and Gloria there would have been a much different result. In a very screwed up way, he actually helped free those kids from sexual abuse.
     
  10. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    That may be. But there had to be a better way to go about it besides murdering two people.

    And there's also a bunch of horror stories out there from second generation scientologists. Who knows what type of life they'd of had though being raised by Scientologists.

    I certainly wouldn't want to have had that guy as my father if he was capable of this. :omg:
     
  11. CommunicatorIC

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    The Court Minutes for 5/14/18 states: "Defense notes their three major experts are in place: a Psychologist, Scientologist and Autism Expert."

    The Minutes also states: "Discussion ensues regarding the Scientology and Autism Expert reports."


    Link to Court docs provided by "Science Doc" on Tony Ortega's blog:

    https://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

    You have to search for Case No. CR-201200355. Only Minute Entries are available. FWIW, my take is on this is that a Scientologist is not being called as an expert, but instead an expert on Scientology and on Scientologists is being called as witness.

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    The Court Minutes for 6/18/18 reflects the Court GRANTED the State's (i.e., prosecutor's) motion to preclude Defendant's justification defense.

    "The Defendant argues that a reasonable person in Defendant's circumstance would have believed that physical or deadly force was immediately necessary to protect the children from the spiritual consequences of their situations."

    The Court rejected Defendant's argument for two reasons. First, the children weren't home at the time, so there was no immediate danger. Second, and more fundamentally, the Court ruled spiritual harm "as a matter of law, is insufficient to support the justification defense of others."

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  12. freethinker

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    My point is, if Arizona courts had left them with the kids then Kenny would not have committed the murders. He may have eventually woken up about Scientology, but even if he didn't, lives may have been spared because not brought to the brink of ones sanity. I can only go by what Tony wrote. If what he wrote was accurate then those kids should have been left with Kenny and Gloria instead of Penny and her child abusing husband.
     
  13. freethinker

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    Is there a trial date set?
     
  14. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    Jury selection starts tomorrow, Tuesday, January 8, 2019.
     
  15. ThetanExterior

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    "The Defendant argues that a reasonable person in Defendant's circumstance would have believed that physical or deadly force was immediately necessary to protect the children from the spiritual consequences of their situations."

    I think it is incredibly naive for a scientologist to expect a court to agree with this. If it was upheld then it would place scientology parents at great risk from people trying to protect the scientologists' kids from scientology.
     
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  16. tesseract

    tesseract Patron with Horrors

    No shit! :)

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