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Discussion in 'Stories From Inside Scientology' started by Mick Wenlock, Aug 16, 2007.
Div6 - yeah I guess I did have a sort of a death wish. I know you were being humorous but I really did want to see if the SO was the sort of place that valued the truth. Oh well. Appreciate, very much, your kind words
WPRT - sorry to hear about your father. I think a lot of exes go through mental agony because every setback, every loss throws us into "what if they are right?". It took me a long time to realize that life is just like that.
My wife and I and our son live in a nice place with our animals out in the country, we have a lot of fun, we have very little spare money and we have, thanks in large part to XSO and on here - some truly wonderful friends. It has been hard work to get here, we have had triumphs and disasters and neither the successes or the losses had anything at all to do with Scientology.
FTS - thank you for your kind words, really appreciated.
If anyone reading the story has had a tough time after getting out and a tough time talking about it to other exes - feel free to PM me. We have been through it.
I've told a number of people about this thread. I think it should be encouraged or even required reading for any Scn'ist or anyone thinking of critiquing the subject or organization.
I have always liked your posts- even when I was first on a.r.s. and we were totally not getting along. I could tell you were and are a sharp cookie.
I think you've got a lot of guts and integrity
Thanks very much for your story, it's completely amazing what you and Nancy have lived through.
My heartfelt thanks to you and Emma for establishing the means so that these stories now can see the light of day and the truths are coming out. Having a view from the other side of the "world" allows things to click into place in terms of the overall story.
What is incredibly sad is that your story is of "the good old days" (not to take anything away from it) and it got a lot worse, according to those who got out later.
Wow, you are very brabe, we salute you! Balls of steal you are. I know how desperate one is after SO with only one hand on the front and other on the back. So glad you are outside and doing better, hope so much better now. Have a nice day.
This is a great story. I am just amazed at what you went through. Can't wait to read the rest.
Thank you for your story.
I have been out of Scientology for a year now and feel so happy - I can't believe that I fell for all of that stuff... so many sticky fish-hooks. Difficult.
Well done to you for your tenacity and inner strength.
Nothing, NOTHING can break the human spirit and you people seem to be strong and happy.
Life is such a great journey and these things come along to teach us what we need to know about ourselves and then we can move on.
sending you all the best
No, the Danish lawyers name is Jakob Arrevad. See: http://www.robertdam-cos.dk/Arrevad.html
Thank's LaRose! - And welcome to ESMB!
Larose. You've been a member since December 2007, but this is your first post. Are you going to say anything else before 2011? .
Like a story maybe. . . ?
I didn't read one post in this thread.
I did the board a favor!!!
Well, I did!
Well, I did just read all the posts in this thread (thanks for bringing it into Today's Posts, Winston).
My reaction: I did not particularly care for Mick Wenlock's posts before this. But while reading his story I could see why he is so negative, and then I suddenly had this surge of, "I love every one on this board no matter how negative you are!" Whoa, give me a chair to hang on to while I stand up to exit the room!...
Rae Mathieson .... This must have been the mission to ANZO when I got to meet Rae! I have to admit to a small crush on Rae... who was almost old enough then to be my father! It was also the beginning of my desire to become an RTC Missionaire... ee Gads! How the joke turned on me! I hope Rae is out and doing well. He was a gentleman in time and place when Gentlemen were few and far between.
And what a cliff hanger to leave the story on!
Mick, I have enjoyed your presence on ESMB, but had been remiss about reading your story until now. That was something. Thanks for telling it.
Why did the government want control of Scn? Now that they have control of Scn what are they doing with it?
wow, imagine how unimpressed I am by you!!
You are one gutsy guy and eloquent too!
Love and Respect to you and your family
But that's just the point!
But Mick, that's just the point, it doesn't matter what you feel toward me, I have what I feel toward you! I think Roger would say I have had an AE.
Love, (and you can throw that away but it still doesn't matter), M6
Well, one school of thought is that they wanted to shut down, or control, the "making of OT's". This idea was originated by LRH in (if I recall correctly) the "Politics, Freedom From" Policy Letter.
This also fits in with a recurring script that Hubbard ran, being a "rescuer", in this case "of the people" from an "opressive government". This is also the underlying subtext of the OT III incident, where Hubbard and his "loyal officers" are out to reverse the damage caused by Xenu and his renegades.
Further, it allowed Hubbard (and consequently the CoS) to postion themselves as "vicitms" of "conspiracies" and thereby continue an excuse for "no results" and anything goes type activities against [ercieved enemies of 'mankinds only hope'.
If the US govt DOES have control of Scn now, they would simply try to turn it in to a new age type religion, and change things up so that no OT's get made. It is fine with them if it takes a billion years to clear this planet....they figure they will be long gone by then, and not have to confront their continuing overt acts. Or so they think.
Any way, I realize this is kind of rambling, but I just got back from the deep freeze outside, and am warming up....
Thanks! Sounds good to me.