You are welcome of course, sallydannce. I'm grateful for the chance to participate in this discussion, and for the interest some thinking folk have in the shame of it all. Also for your courage in telling your story with such generosity and detail. I had read part of it, but didn't realize until today how much you've shared regarding your awareness and experience of shame. Your journey is worthy, and your telling it is an inspiration to many. You posted about the experience of deep shame, while driving, and being torn up and grief stricken. I'm thinking you could have had a great blessing. It would be a shame if it was otherwise.