Well there's the rub, isn't it? So much of what we experience in Scientology is subjective. We've discussed the Ganzfeld Effect that Scientologists want to believe is partial exteriorization but non-Scientologists explain it as a state of dissociation caused by the brain trying to compensate for monotonous stimuli. Why is it not ever really full perceptic exteriorization? Because if it were you could prove it. You would be able to read a deck of cards in the next room. And exterirization is so problematic in Scientology. If you go exterior before you are properly prepared by Scientology then you may have to pay a lot of money to do the Int Rundown. There are lots of excuses why we don't get it right and can't prove it. Why don't we want to hold up our beliefs in these kinds of things to strong logical standards? Yet we talk about them as though they are fact and others should accept them as fact. Fantasy and imagination can be good and powerful things. It's probably the single most important thing that sets mankind apart from all other creatures. And not only are we imaginative but because we have opposing thumbs or because we evolved opposing thumbs because we are imaginative - we are also very creative. But logic based on fantasy is also highly subject to interpretation and more easily manipulated. Once you adopt the concept of spirituality then that establishes the principle that there is this whole other reality out there with it's own complicated system of taxonomy, each with their own evolution, history, culture and politics. Now parents and children are not related because thetans don't have parents or children. What you do in this life isn't so important because there will always be another life to make up the bucket list. LRH gets to be an explorer, rich with experience, an expert in many diverse fields, accomplished in life but you agree to do bulk mailing and call-in for a billion years to make his goals a reality all the time he is telling you how great your potential as an immortal spirit is. The idea that Scientology is 3D or inter-dimensional is consistent with the Targ/Body Thetan mythology. Our universe is being invaded and plotted against by other dimensional beings. It's not enough that we should sacrifice everything to save this planet against nuclear war, we have to fight off the Targ invasion which will cost a lot of money and require many over-nighters. I love all this stuff, I really do but unless you are a fantasy writer there is a big different between structuring your logic around it and things that hold up to critical analysis. I've never known a Scientologist to prove without a doubt remote viewing or to recall where they buried their treasure in a past life. We invest so much in these things that it never occurs to us to test our own convictions. Try accepting that none of it is real just as an exercise. Scientologists are Scientologists exactly because they have already accepted the 3D concept. Being able to adopt a completely opposite logic introduces a healthy counter balance to a viewpoint of Scientology and it's many methods of manipulation.