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  1. Veda

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  2. Veda

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    Over time, I'll be re-posting parts of the 'Sole Source Myth' thread.

    The thread was majorly derailed and this is an attempt to tighten it up a bit.


     
  3. So this is a re-tread? Or a de-bug??? :biggrin: :lol:

    (Shhh...no de-rails!!!) :hide:
     
  4. Veda

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    Continued...

     
  5. Veda

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  6. Veda

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  7. Panda Termint

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    Great idea, Veda! Thanks. :)
     
  8. Gib

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    I concur. :thumbsup:
     
  9. afaceinthecrowd

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    I concur with your concurrence. :thumbsup::coolwink::biggrin:

    Face:)
     
  10. Veda

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    It occurred to me that, in my haste to assemble these posts, I may have overlooked some things that would have been appropriate to have posted here. If anything by another has accidentally been omitted, or if there are any who wish to add others sources, contributors, or antecedents - of a (more or less) positive nature - please feel free to add those to this thread. That's what it's for. :)

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    "His eye was single and his whole body was filled with light."

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2m7rYjZ54&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL8458AD21217B8E97
     
  11. Veda

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    Patricia Waldygo's painting of the Kabbalistic Tree of life:

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    Scientology's "Four Conditions of Existence" can be found on the "Tree," and correspond with the "Tetragrammaton," the four key components of the "Tree."

    The "Know to Mystery Scale," and other scales, also can be traced to the "Tree."

    Crowley's 'Naples Arrangement' inspired Hubbard's 1952, 'The Factors'.

    Crowley's insertion of the Yogic triad of "Bliss, Knowledge, Being" into the 'Naples Arrangement' corresponds with Hubbard's placement of "Affinity, Reality, Communication'" in 'The Factors'. (This link is not the best description of the 'Naples Arrangement', but it will have to do for now. Remember, the Google search engine is your friend.)

    'Yoga for Yellow Bellies', second lecture:

    http://hermetic.com/crowley/eight-lectures-on-yoga/8yoga6.html

    About the 'Naples Arrangement', excerpted from the 'Book of Thoth'

    http://www.etarot.info/naples-arrangement

    Some more Aleister Crowley - 'Little Essays Toward Truth':

    http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/littleessays/man.html

    One of Crowley's last works, 'Magick Without Tears', features - in some editions -a collection of illustrations of the 'Tree of Life', with both Kabbalistic notations, and their correspondences with ancient Chinese Cosmology's "Eight Trigrams."
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__d48GnwHn...PfIBTk/s320/Sephirot+and+I+Ching+Trigrams.JPG The building blocks of the "Eight Trigrams," known as the "Four Digrams," http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=18947 correspond both with the "Tetragrammaton," and the 'Four Conditions of Existence'.

    http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/mwt_contents.html

    Crowley's 'The Book of the Law' (including its 'Introduction'), and, perhaps, his best known text, 'Magick in Theory and Practice', contain many correspondences with Scientology. 'Eight Lectures on Yoga', by Crowley, is another interesting text.

    And there is also Crowley's ten volume 'Equinox'.

    One final note, in this brief - and unavoidably incomplete - outline: The Scientology Symbol, "The S with the Double Triangle," is an expression of Crowley's Motto: "Love is the Law; Love under Will."


    (This is a re-post to replace a broken link, of which I have just become aware. A re-post is necessary as editing after 30 minutes in impossible. :)
     
  12. Veda

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    Forgive any redundancy. This is being assembled hastily.


    In 1937 a book titled, 'The Middle Pillar' by Israel Regardie was published.

    Wrote Regardie:

    "[Psycho-therapeutic] Analysis is the logical precursor of spiritual attainment and Magical experiment... Not until the mind and the emotional system have been cleansed and unified by the cathartic process... can the full spiritual benefits of magical work be reflected into the mind of man.

    "...We should remember the parables of the archaic philosophical religions whose fundamental tenet was that within man was a spirit, a dynamic center of consciousness which, because of its contact and association with matter, had been plunged into a profound sleep, a kind of somnambulism...

    "By endeavoring to extend the horizon of consciousness, to enlarge the field of awareness so as to embrace what previously was unconscious, is obviously a logical method. To become aware of all our actions, our thoughts and emotions and unsuspected motives, to regard them in their true light as actually they are and not as we would like them to be or as we would wish an onlooker to perceive them. It requires, to take this step, an extraordinary degree of honesty and courage... The more of this suppressed and forgotten material stored in this at one time unknown or dormant side of our nature that can be raised to the clear light of day, by exactly so much do we awake from the inert stupor into which we have in the past been plunged."

    "The Great Work is the raising of the whole man to the power of infinity." From 'Magick in Theory and Practice' by Aleister Crowley.

    Sound familiar? See 'Scientology 8-8008'

    Instead of the long vanity list (to give credibility and "gravitas" to Hubbard) of "50,000 years of thinking men," etc., in the front of 'Scientology 8-8008', it would have been more accurate for Hubbard to have simply placed Aleister Crowley's name there.


    This audio/video is sometimes difficult to hear but, if one clicks the top, and goes to YouTube video, there's a transcription of it.

    This is Carl Jung addressing his Soul, or perhaps "Higher Self" would be a better description.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt_-LHKff_g

    There are many views on how the notion of a Soul (capital "S") should be regarded. One holds that the person on Earth is no more his entire being than a finger tip is the entire physical body. Re-uniting the finger tip with the rest of the body (the "lower soul" with the "Higher Soul"), according to some, will occur at the end of the person's physical life. Others attempt this connection in this life through prayer, meditation, and other mental/spiritual disciplines.

    In Scientology, there is no "Higher Self" or "Higher Soul" recognized, and Scientologists tend to see themselves as the compete expression of their being, They are "thetans" who proudly announce that they do not have a soul but are a soul. Yet, what if there is a Higher Soul, and Scientologists have cut themselves off from that? The result: many little Scientologists with giant egos, cut off from further spiritual exploration that may have made then whole.

    Years ago, I even experimented ("squirrelling") with this area, using the basic format of an auditing session. The client ("pc"), after a brief description/discussion of the notion of a Higher Self, was asked if there was (forgive the Scientologese, it was a long time ago) an "ARC break" with the Higher Self, with idea of opening a line of communication. It was interesting but not earth-shaking.

    It's perhaps noteworthy that Aleister Crowley wrote of "the knowledge and conversation with one's Holy Guardian Angel" as an objective of Magic(k)al study and exercise. Crowley, towards the end of his life, admitted that his "Holy Guardian Angel" may not have been a separate being, but an aspect of his own mind.

    (And to Scientologists reading this. No, this is not about "BTs.")

    Even Hubbard wrote (in the 1940s) of his Guardian Angel, whom he named, and seemed to regard her (it was a female) as a separate being.

    In any event, this audio/visio by Jung is worth hearing, IMO. It does appear the Jung regarded himself as the lesser expression of a greater Being (no matter how one wishes to word it), one with which he wished to re-acquaint himself.


    L. Ron Hubbard was embarrassed by the Crowley connection, once the drugs he was taking, when he was stream-of-consciousness-ifying the Philadelphia Doctorate Course lectures, wore off. There's no indication that Hubbard ever listened to these lectures again, anymore then he, again, listened to his rambling dictation into early recording devices of what became some of his early books - books which were transcribed and organized by others, and only minimally reviewed by Hubbard. Did Hubbard even remember that he had, numerous times, mentioned Crowley during 1952 in Philadelphia?

    After some details of the Crowley connection were revealed in the 'Times of London' in 1969, Hubbard concocted a story about having been "sent in by Naval Intelligence to break up a black magic group" in 1946, etc., and "rescued a girl." Incidentally, the "girl" he "rescued" was Sara Northrup, who, also in 1969, in a confidential briefing, he described as the Russian spy Sara Komkovadamanov, whom he had met in the place where nuclear physicists stayed. Of course, it made sense that Hubbard would be staying there since he was a nuclear physicist, etc.

    Hubbard spewed so much B.S. and tilted so many mirrors, that it took years to de-code it. Despite that, the Scientologists are still wandering in circles, muttering, "Scientology works," "Scientology works."

    The 1969 'Times of London' article, and Scientology's response:

    http://blacklies.xenu.ca/archives/19

    The story invented by Hubbard is presented again in 1971, by Scientology Public Relations person David Gaiman, in response to a series of questions from Paulette Cooper (at the very end):

    http://www.xenu.net/archive/books/tsos/sos-app.html


    My reading of Crowley, which began in earnest in the late 1970s, made my exit from Scientology inevitable. I enjoyed reading Crowley.

    The first Crowley work I read was a little blood red book (identical in color to the 'Tech Volumes'), called 'The Book of the Law'. Crowley claimed that 'The Book' was dictated to him by a non-material being (a long story), but suffice it to say that there are two primary types of Crowley expression - books he himself wrote as himself, and books he wrote as a scribe receiving dictation from above. Hubbard borrowed freely from both categories. He certainly borrowed from 'The Book of the Law':


    From Aleister Crowley's 'The Book of the Law' (This is a departure from the emphasis on "positives."):

    "We have nothing with the outcast and the unfit; let them die in their misery. For they feel not. Compassion is the vice of Kings: stamp down the wretched and the weak: this is the law of the strong: this is our law and the joy of the world.

    "...I am the snake that giveth knowledge and delight, and stir the hearts of men with drunkenness. To worship me take wine and strange drugs. They shall not harm ye at all. It is a lie, this folly against self...

    "...The Kings of Earth shall be the Kings forever: the slaves shall serve.

    "Them that seek to entrap thee, to overthrow thee, them attack without pity or quarter; and destroy them utterly."

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    Korzybski's 'Manhood of Humanity' and 'Science and Sanity' both taught that Mankind needed to wake up, to grow up, to become rational.

    Although Hubbard borrowed much from Korzybski, that didn't stop him from denouncing Korzybski:

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    From L. Ron Hubbard's 'Data Series 1', 26 April 1970:

    "As Alfred Korzybski studied under psychiatry and amongst the insane (his mentor was William Alanson White at Saint Elizabeth Insane Asylum in Wash. D.C.) one can regard him mainly as the father of confusion."


    Gurdjieff is another teacher who pre-dated Hubbard, from whom Hubbard "borrowed." I witnessed the extensive files on Gurdjieff groups in the Guardian's Office in the 1970s. He - his teachings and groups - as with Korzybski, was ultimately regarded as an enemy by Hubbard.

    Note the similarities between Gurdjieff and Scientology:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z23tl6l_AB8

    Hubbard exploited the above ideas, and used them as deceptive lead-ins (the "cheese in the trap") into the darker inner regions of Scientology.

    Some excerpts from the works of Gurdjieff can be found in the "Are you Haunted?' chapter of 'Messiah or Madman?'


    More material on Hubbard's "borrowings" from post War War II 'abreaction therapy' - Scientology's exploitation of the usually therapeutic process of catharsis - in needed, as this thread has become over-loaded with material from Crowley, et al.


    Note: This thread seeks essentially "positive" antecedents and contributions to Scientology, although it's understood that, in many instances, these essentially "positive" elements were later abused and exploited by Scientology.

    The thread contains many links to other threads.
     
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  13. Veda

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  14. Infinite

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    Surprisingly honest statement from L Ron Hubbard . . .

    So what changed? Oh, right . . . KSW and the Messiah Project.
     
  15. Veda

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    What changed? IMO, very little changed.

    In 1954, Hubbard activated his "religion angle," and it was important that Scientology be identified with respectable religions.

    So, Hubbard spoke, publicly, respectfully, of Buddhism, and even of Taoism, and also of the Vedas.

    He wanted to show that Scientology followed in the long tradition of these subjects, and even briefly spoke positively of Christianity. The 1954 'Creation of Human Ability' book opens with a quote from St. Luke of the Bible.

    However, during the 1954 Phoenix Lectures, Hubbard couldn't resist depicting himself as being responsible (by implication) for the arrival of the Vedas on Earth, and at a much earlier date than usually recognized:


    "It does happen that there are a set of [Vedic] hymns which as I recall were introduced into the societies of earth in about 8212 BC."


    A year later, Hubbard wrote The 'Hymn of Asia', where he depicted himself as the re-incarnated Buddha. Seems as though not only did Hubbard originally bring this knowledge to Earth "in about 8212 BC," he also, as Gautama Buddha, continue to develop it and popularize it.

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    I can be addressed
    But in our temples best
    Address me and you address
    Lord Buddha.
    Address Lord Buddha
    And you then address
    Metteyya.


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    L. Ron Hubbard, from 'Hymn of Asia'


    For a - occasionally - honest Hubbard, speaking to nascent Scientologists with Hubbard being "loose-lipped," probably due to his use of amphetamines or cocaine, one needs to go to the 1952 Philadelphia Doctorate Course:

    "Our whole activity tends to make an individual completely independent of any limitation... Old Aleister Crowley had some interesting things to say about this. He wrote 'The Book of the Law'.


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    All editions of 'The Book of the Law' are blood red,
    which is, oddly, also the color of the 'Tech Volumes'.​


    From Crowley's 'Magick in Theory and Practice':

    "The whole and sole object of all true Magickal training is to become free from every kind of limitation."


    More from the 'PDC':

    "The old magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but a fascinating work by itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley... He signs himself 'the Beast', mark of the Beast 666..."

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