Child abuse in the Sea Org

Discussion in 'Stories From Inside Scientology' started by Bea Kiddo, Sep 23, 2013.

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  1. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    (About me, from another thread and belongs here)

    Yes, I remember one time when I was about 5 years old I was standing on the edge of the Fountain Building roof, contemplating jumping. It was about 5 stories. I didnt know if it would kill me. I think what stopped me was the idea that I might survive it and get in a ton of trouble. I remember crying and hating my life.

    It was because, as far as I remember, that my mother always treated my brother better because he was older. I had a constant pressure to act like an adult and be an adult. Not just from my mother, from everyone around me like the nannies and other kids.

    Cant remember if this was in my story, but it certainly was part of it!

    Also another time when I was 16 I used to carry around mercury from 3 thermometers that I broke. I heard it could kill me. I carried that around for about 6 months, in addition to a period where I would not eat or drink ANYTHING but a MochaJava for months. I lost tons of weight and nearly starved myself to death at 16. I got RPFed around that time, and somehow snapped out of it and started eating.
     
  2. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    :hug:
     
  3. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I spent one day in Rats' Alley when it had roaches. They weren't the familiar little cockroaches: they were palmetto bugs (the state bird of Florida).

    [Edited to remove image. It's here if you want to click on it: http://monicafay.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/imgres-1.jpeg]

    They have wings. And they fly. I estimated how many were down there by counting how many were in a square foot and multiplying by the area covered. It was literally in the tens of thousands.

    So imagine that you are rolling around on a dolly about 2' by 1' cleaning the floor with a dense covering of these suckers rustling away (they're alive, and they move) maybe a foot or two above your head. For hours.

    And Bea might appreciate this. I was pretty freaked out when I first went in there. I then spent about 5 minutes running Hellos and OKs on them, and was OK after that. Can't say I enjoyed it, but it became tolerable.

    Paul
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2013
  4. Polly

    Polly Patron with Honors

    Ugh don't remind me... Now imagine those areas from the mind of a child.
     
  5. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I think what made most of an impression on me regarding them was one day when I just outside Big Blue one walked in front of me and I deliberately trod on it. I then walked on, and it just ran way! Scary. And I hadn't missed it in that space just in front of the heel as I felt it under my sole. Now, they are possible to splat but you have to work at it.

    Paul
     
  6. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron


    These stories are so horrifying. I will tell one from a Mother's view.

    My 15 yr old daughter went to Austin Org in 1971 to do the HSDC while I went to Flag to do FEBC. We were "Public" Scn'ists.

    While at Flag, I got a good luck at living conditions, and a dose of the CMO kids attitudes and language. I would not allow my Daughter to join the SO.
    I told COS that her Father, a Texas multi-millionaire ( we were divorced) would sue if she were not allowed to leave the Org and return home.
    ( Whit Whitford, ED of Austin Org, would not release her from the Org).

    She was 15. Living off figs on a tree outside the window. The Course Sup was fooking a young student on the floor of the courseroom. A so-called "Clear"
    named Ed Davis was fooking a 13 year old retarded student (from Dallas). ( Her Father's name was Ken_____.).

    I would've done most anything to keep my Daughter out of that scene.

    She hates me and has disconnected from me. I don't know the reason. But I suspect that this decision on my part to not allow her to join the SO is a large part of it.

    phenomanon
     
  7. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    I can't look at this thread anymore now that there is that nasty roach in it. Twice. :hide:

    To this day my hubby has to deal with them. (We live in Texas... nuff sed...)
     
  8. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    I removed my image, Bea, but left the link. Three more posts and it will be on the previous page. :)

    Paul
     
  9. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    This thread made me so angry that I had to walk away from it twice.
     
  10. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    Child abuse in the Sea Org - Jason Barclay's Story

    Jason Barclay only left the Sea Org mid 2012. He officially joined the Sea Org at 13 years old, but a recruiter actually first had him sign a billion year contract when he was only 4. :angry: Jason first went public on Mike Rinder's blog, then Marty's. This is Jason's story:

    See the rest of his story at http://tonyortega.org/2013/04/19/jason-barclays-sea-org-adventure-a-fresh-escapee-details-abuse/

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/jason-barclay-tells-it-like-it-is/
     
  11. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    I remember that post, Bea, and your descriptions of cleaning Rat's Alley (which I was fortunate enough to get out of doing). Thank goodness you snapped around! We are so fortunate to have you here, and especially your friends and family. What a tragedy it would have been to them and to you if you'd miss out on all this love and living. :bighug: You deserve all good things and I'm so glad you have them now. Keep going, woman. Stand tall. x x x
     
  12. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    You are a truly loving mother, Pheno. Thanks for telling your story. You saved her from wasting her entire life and education. That knowledge of the real world (which she wouldn't have had otherwise) may be just the thing that eventually brings her back to you. You gave her what she needs for a good life. I wish you all the best on restoring that relationship some day.
     
  13. Xenu's Boyfriend

    Xenu's Boyfriend Silver Meritorious Patron

    Bea, I read your longer piece about your time in Scientology and I just want to say I was gripped by it and fascinated, especially when you described your time being on post in Venezuela. I really hope you write a book one day, you have a lot to share and an interesting way to share it. I felt I was there!

    I feel so powerless reading testimonials like these about the child abuse, and I am very clear that is exactly what it is. One day, I believe there will be research done, and a major archive, perhaps museum, like the Holocaust or Slavery museums - A Scientology Museum where they will have records of people's stories like this - about what it meant to be a child on the RPF, or to be in the Sea Org. I really do believe that ex-Scientologists recalling their memories of the Sea Org, the Hole, and experiences like the chain locker, overboarding described in previous threads will be compared to people who remember their time in concentration camps, or japanese internment camps in this country. We will look back, as people look back at these other times in history, and we'll ask - how did we allow this to happen? Perhaps their will be trials for the worst offenders.
     
  14. Purple Rain

    Purple Rain Crusader

    You know a museum is a fantastic idea. I seriously think we should be starting a project like this now.
     
  15. Xenu's Boyfriend

    Xenu's Boyfriend Silver Meritorious Patron

    Thanks PR. Maybe it could be called "The Lisa McPherson Scientology Awareness Museum" or something like that.

    I'm sure Tony Ortega, Mark Bunker, Karen De le Carriere, Mark Headley, Jenna Hill and so many others would be open to it, and would help it become a success.

    I thought ordinarily that a museum is usually open after the tragedy being memorialized (slavery, Holocaust, 9/11) was over, but maybe that's not necessary in this case.

    It would be so great to take people through various displays - the e-meters and books, the testimonial booths and videos, the exhibits, "The Truth About Ron". The RPF exhibit with black boiler suits. A room with clay, ashtrays, dictionaries and other objects specific to the training courses. A "Bridge To Total Freedom" that leads you around the museum in circles. A room dedicated to Quentin Hubbard which discusses the "church" views on homosexuality. Or the "children in Scientology" room, Madam Tussaud like, with exhibits like 40 babies and one nanny, and a child being kept in a chain locker. Overboarding. Children doing heavy manual labor. Throughout the museum you would have rooms with L. Ron Hubbard voiceover, and the Tom Cruise video, with contradictions from those who have survived growing up in the church. Everything would be brought to light.

    I can just imagine the "fair game" practices that would go on, unfortunately. People being filmed as they come in and out, Scientologists picketing outside 24/7, you'd have to have security day and night to make sure they didn't burn the place down, and tons of security inside. There would be lawsuits all over the place, but that might be a good thing, because when they cry "defamation" a judge would then have to determine what is true and what is slanderous.

    Let the games begin!
     

  16. I remember that project, and the overall way of life. I am a couple months younger than you, and a dude (not trying to be a pig :blush: ) so I don't think it was as hard on me as it was you. I remember a lady in my unit on the RPF that was walking up some stairs with a vacuum, and just collapsed from exhaustion. Crazy life.

    Speaking of not using machinery, I remember a project to water proof the roof of the underground parking at CCI. Because it was underground, the roof for the parking was a grassy area for walking and stuff. We had to dig, by hand, an area almost the size of a football field, 3-4 feet deep so they could do the water proofing. Then we had to put it all back, by hand (with shovels & wheel barrow) in the L.A. summer wearing all black. And remember, this was on the RPF, so there was no walking, you had to run.

    I remember another time a kid messed up his ankle real bad and wanted to go to the doctor. The RPF superiors told him to WALK TO HIS ORG to get money to go to the doctor (about 3 miles).
     
  17. Bea Kiddo

    Bea Kiddo Crusader

    We became numb to physical and mental pain.
     
  18. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    Isn't that the truth in spades, I was losing my humanity being in $cientology. :sad:
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2013
  19. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Thank you so much.
    I haven't much hope of a 'Re-connection". It's been since 1984 that I have seen her. She was 28 yrs old then. She is 57 yrs old now.
    We have both lived lives without the other. I don't think that she would recognise my face if she were to see me, and I might not recognise her.
    I am 82 yrs old, and I doubt that I will see her before I die.

    Thanks Ron and Mary Sue for all your advise about child rearing. All of us who have lost our loved ones are indebted to you. We will never forget you and what you have added to our lives.


    phenomanon
     
  20. this thread is of course on my required reading list but i'm pretty busy these days
     

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