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  1. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    My copy arrived, that was a pretty quick trip from the US.

    10 pages into the story and the tears came. Although I wasn't part of that particular and unique environment (my brother was) there were of course similarities at Saint Hill. What struck me so hard was a reminder of the arbitrary and abusive betrayals which were and are so common. But mostly the fact that innocent children and young adults were, and again are, treated so appallingly. It just breaks my heart.

    Beautifully written Janis, I'd better get back to reading.
     
  2. tr8theta

    tr8theta I Love Kitties

    Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

     
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  3. janisgrady

    janisgrady Patron

    Re: Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

     
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  4. janisgrady

    janisgrady Patron

    Glad to hear it arrived and you immediatley dug into it. There are some laughs in it too!
     
  5. tr8theta

    tr8theta I Love Kitties

    Re: Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

    Great to hear from you...thank you for caring to reply:yes:
    Um...are you jesting with me Janis, LOL because I am very sure that I did NOT ever knock on your cabin door to express anything... much less my love. In fact I was rather fearful of you CMO girls especially since you had a direct line to LRH...so I kept my distance. Doesn't mean I didn't have a crush on a particular CMO girl:eyeroll: ...but I ain't gonna say who.
    Do you mean Neil Safarti? I saw him awhile ago...our little Apollo Stars reunion!
    I definitely want to read your book. I assume it gives the reader an in depth look at what your life was truly like as a CMO member. There must be so much that went on behind the scenes with LRH that we didn't know was going on nor were privy to.

    I can't believe all that has happened since I left Flag...so much controversy.
    If you reply can you please tell me how to send a private message to someone here. Thanks.
    Give my regards to Terry and ask her if she remembers what I told you.
    Best Wishes:eyeroll:



     
  6. janisgrady

    janisgrady Patron

    Re: Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

    Sorry tr8theta I have no idea how to send a private message on here. If you are on Facebook, look me up there and PM me so I can give you the contact information.
     
  7. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    Re: Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

    Click on the button "Private messages" in the top menu, then choose send new message from the menu on the left. :)

    Or click the name of the person and chose the item to send a pm. See below (click to enlarge)

    Naamloos.png
     
  8. tr8theta

    tr8theta I Love Kitties

    Re: Hello Janis Re: Commodores Messenger Book I by Janis Gillham Grady

    Hi there again. I learned that you left click on the user's name and a window drops down inviting you to send a private message, read their forum posts in succession and other stuff.
    TR
     
  9. tr8theta

    tr8theta I Love Kitties

    Hi Janis
    Just wondering - is there anything in book 2 about The Apollo Stars?
    Tom Rr
     
  10. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    September 3, 2017: Center for Inquiry Los Angeles - Commodore’s Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization

    http://www.centerforinquiry.net/la/...er_a_child_adrift_in_the_scientology_sea_org/

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    Commodore’s Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization

    Starts: Sunday, September 3rd 2017 at 11:00 am

    Ends: Sunday, September 3rd 2017 at 12:30 pm

    Location: Center for inquiry - Los Angeles, 4773 Hollywood Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90027

    Scientology Founder L.R. Hubbard has been dead for over 30 years now, but many of those who knew him are still around. Case in point: Janis Gillham Grady.

    Janis's mother, Yvonne, founded Scientology's Celebrity Centre and was married to Heber Jentzsch, President of the Church of Scientology International. Her father, Peter F. Gillham, was known as one of the top lecturers on the subject of Scientology in the 1970s.

    In the mid-1960s "the Gillhams" were regarded as Scientology's first family in Australia. But when Scientology was banned in the Australian state of Victoria, Janis's family moved to England and eventually lived aboard the Scientology ship, the Royal Scotsman (later the Apollo), where she became an original Commodore's Messenger for L. Ron Hubbard.

    Over the next 11 years she spent six hours or more nearly every day with L. Ron Hubbard until he went into hiding with fellow Commodore's Messengers, Annie and Pat Broeker. Hubbard passed away in January 1986.

    Janis's book, Commodore's Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization, comes from the earliest days and the epicentre of Scientology's Sea Organization. As one of Hubbard's messengers, she was privy to all his moods and was intimately familiar with everything happening on board the ship as well as throughout the Scientology network.

    Please join us for a fascinating, super-insider look at a Scientology even Leah Remini couldn't imagine.

    General admission: $8
    Students: $4
    Planet Level Members (& higher) FREE

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  11. #1Son

    #1Son New Member

     
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  12. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Goldenrod SP

    Sounds like you have some interesting stories. I think you'll find that this message board is a great place to talk about any abuses you witnessed.
     
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  13. TrevAnon

    TrevAnon Big List researcher

    :welcome2:

    I think you'll find by far most of the ESMB members think dat Scientology was all nonsense to begin with and that LRH was a con man.

    See my sig for lots of more info about exes, and stories from the inside.

    (Oh, and never in here.)
     
  14. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation


    Scientology turns many (not all) good people into complete arseholes ... I think that's fairly well known by now, but once they get out of the cult most people gradually become themselves again.

    I'm truly sorry for anything you experienced and saw.

    :yes:
     
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  15. janisgrady

    janisgrady Patron

    #1son

    I am not denying things like that happened and the stories of such that I know of, I will try and cover in my book II. If you want to write me personally to remind me of some of the details, feel free - you can find me on facebook and pm me there if you want.

    I don't think my book communicates that the craziness only started with DM - it didn't, its been there all along and I believe my book shows that.
     
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  16. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    I think that your parents willingness to leave you tiny children in the hands of family/ or friends/ or the fooking Sea Org tells truckloads about what scn was , long long before DM . Peter and Yvonne were already locked into the mindfuck by 1962.
     
  17. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    I'm halfway through and that's exactly what I think. To read how it actually played out has already answered a lot of questions for me. I wish my dad was still around to read this. We were headed for the ship in 1968 and thankfully ended up in the UK. Understanding how Hubbard acted explains why scientology is what it is.
     
  18. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    It follows logically from the underlying assumption.

    If Scientology is the "only way out", where its success produces total freedom, and failure condemns every being in the universe to eternal suffering and pain, then it follows that ANY price can be justified, if deemed necessary to advance Scientology.

    Sacrifice the years of your life, sacrifice your children -- it's all a small price to pay for the "ultimate reward".
     
  19. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    September 3, 2017: Center for Inquiry Los Angeles - Commodore’s Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization

    http://www.centerforinquiry.net/la/events/commodores_messenger_a_child_adrift_in_the_scientology_sea_org/

    [​IMG]



    * * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * *

    Commodore’s Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization

    Starts: Sunday, September 3rd 2017 at 11:00 am

    Ends: Sunday, September 3rd 2017 at 12:30 pm

    Location: Center for inquiry - Los Angeles, 4773 Hollywood Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90027

    Scientology Founder L.R. Hubbard has been dead for over 30 years now, but many of those who knew him are still around. Case in point: Janis Gillham Grady.

    Janis's mother, Yvonne, founded Scientology's Celebrity Centre and was married to Heber Jentzsch, President of the Church of Scientology International. Her father, Peter F. Gillham, was known as one of the top lecturers on the subject of Scientology in the 1970s.

    In the mid-1960s "the Gillhams" were regarded as Scientology's first family in Australia. But when Scientology was banned in the Australian state of Victoria, Janis's family moved to England and eventually lived aboard the Scientology ship, the Royal Scotsman (later the Apollo), where she became an original Commodore's Messenger for L. Ron Hubbard.

    Over the next 11 years she spent six hours or more nearly every day with L. Ron Hubbard until he went into hiding with fellow Commodore's Messengers, Annie and Pat Broeker. Hubbard passed away in January 1986.

    Janis's book, Commodore's Messenger: A Child Adrift in the Scientology Sea Organization, comes from the earliest days and the epicentre of Scientology's Sea Organization. As one of Hubbard's messengers, she was privy to all his moods and was intimately familiar with everything happening on board the ship as well as throughout the Scientology network.

    Please join us for a fascinating, super-insider look at a Scientology even Leah Remini couldn't imagine.

    General admission: $8
    Students: $4
    Planet Level Members (& higher) FREE

    * * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
     
  20. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    flyonethewall at Tony Ortega's blog has a relevant observation. Having not read the book yet, I do not know if it is accurate.

    https://tonyortega.org/2017/09/02/l...-positive-side-and-failed/#comment-3499546879

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    flyonthewall • 11 minutes ago

    Speaking of looking for a positive side of Scientology, about 125 pages into Commodore's Messenger and oh boy. Did you know that the root cause of Phillip Wearne's (a key whistleblower in Australia) upset with Hubbard and Scientology was that Scientology made him more ethical and this newfound level of ethics made it impossible for Wearne to make any money at his business? I guess that implies he was a crooked businessman before Scientology and when he became an ethical Scientologist he couldn't make money being a crook anymore so he was mad at Hubbard...for making him ethical....and ruining his business....ok. That's actually what Gilham writes in her book. Oh and also Hubbard was a very practical and grounded person...whose organization ripped Janis's family apart and made their lives a living hell. Yay!

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    EDITED TO ADD:

    https://tonyortega.org/2017/09/02/l...-positive-side-and-failed/#comment-3499562902

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    flyonthewall => Puget Buckeye • 2 minutes ago

    it's presented both as what she was told and what she believes. In a following section, she relays a bizarre claim that Wearne was being used by a CIA front and being paid handsomely and then puts in parenthesis that this is what the Guardian's Office said but she has not personally tried to verify the claim.

    There are some interesting bits, don't get me wrong, but the apologist stuff is very frustrating. For example, Ron was kicked out of Rhodesia bc he was getting involved in politics down there. Yeah, that's one way to put it. There is a picture of Amos Jessup in it and apparently he was interviewed or contributed to the book. That was interesting. Be curious what, if anything, there is on Susan Meister.

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