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strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
But I think this is an example of "bias" or better: a confirmation bias.
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Putting the ARC triangle aside for a moment, Hubbard promised all manner of superhuman abilities would be returned to anyone who followed his 'Road To Total Freedom'.

Seventy years later we are still waiting for a single person to unequivocally demonstrate these promises had any real substance. The proof of the pudding, they say, is in the eating!

thank you @terril park for the link!

'Won't you come into my parlour' said the spider to the fly...
 
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silendo

New Member
Putting the ARC triangle aside for a moment, Hubbard promised all manner of superhuman abilities would be returned to anyone who followed his 'Road To Total Freedom'.

Seventy years later we are still waiting for a single person to unequivocally demonstrate these promises had any real substance. The proof of the pudding, they say, is in the eating!



'Won't you come into my parlour' said the spider to the fly...

You are true! But I was only asking (with a bad english) only for communication materials :"D or better what study after dianetics 55 :)
 

strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
You are true! But I was only asking (with a bad english) only for communication materials :"D or better what study after dianetics 55 :)

As somebody for whom English is not their primary language, you are communicating perfectly well in my opinion. Unless you are studying scientology as an academic exercise I just cannot see the point. If you're looking for a follow-up to Dianetics 55 may I suggest 'Bare Faced Messiah' as I believe somebody else here has already done.
 
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JustSheila

Crusader
thank you @terril park for the link!

Sheila, thank you for the reply.
The post you have recommended to read is really interesting!
But I think this is an example of "bias" or better: a confirmation bias.
The first time you heard about ARC,have you made a connection with Crowley? I think no.
People left scientology and then they start to connect a lot of dots like Hubbard:Crowley=Scientology:crowley's philosophy of personal liberation, all based on the information across internet.
What I am trying to say is that people tend to connect things based on new informations they discover and then they create a structure, a plot, in which they put: their experience and the new informations. The result is a new information that they use to explain their past experience or information-gaps.
In other words they come to conclusions that are not objective.
Because we have a world inside ourself (with opinions, belief, conviction, experience etc.) and with that world we translate the world outside.
Personally I can't see a clear (and Strong) connection between Bless, Knowledge, Being and ARC.
I have study ARC in a way and that way works. Other possible hypothesis can be true but they can't undermine somethings that work.

Hi,

Bold is mine. Yes, I completely agree with you that people create structures through which they judge things. This is the problem with those that study scientology, when they are shown other information, they brush over it because it doesn't agree with the structure scientology puts in their heads. Even when they have more relationship problems than before scientology and find they can no longer communicate well with those outside of scientology, they still think it works better. It is very sad they have this fixed way of thinking in their heads.

It sounds like you stopped reading the thread after Crowley was mentioned. Scientologists have a difficult time accepting better methods than scientology because of the fixed ideas they have that scientology is the only way that works or even that it works at all. It's that structure you mentioned. Scientology has lots of structures to keep people from living in the moment and thinking for themselves and it blocks true communication and intelligent conversation.
 

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For example ARC. ARC, for me, is a good simplification of communication. Why? because a lot of times in my life I have used this method to have a better relationship with people.
I know the critics about Hubbard, but, that's my point: I think Scientology is a philosophy and this mean that is something that is in continue evolution. Maybe in an early stage something wasn't so great, but it can be developed. With kindness, an open-mind and comprehension a lot of things in scientology are useful.
Knowledge is something that doesn't contemplate good or bad, like or dislike. Knowledge is something that contemplate the thirst to know.
I'm not the kind of person that see hubbard's write like the bible. I take what is useful for me and discard what I think is useless.
I come here ("freezone, independents, and other flavors of scientology") asking for something about communication, but everyone response were critics for Hubbard.
Okay, that's okay..but is not what I ask for and also, sometime ago don't you were a scientologist?
So at one time all of you were pro Hubbard and now you are against. From an extreme to another.
I think that a person can learn from everyone and from everything. Hubbard is not a saint for me but something he had write was useful for me other things no.
Communication in particular was something that work (except TR drills).

Now, thank you for all response. I am not a bad person :D I really appreciate your advice about hubbard. But I was asking for something else. Have a good day.

ps. sorry but english is not my first language


Silendo,

Glad you've had success using the idea of ARC. You make some good points in your posts.

There is bias, but there is also wisdom.

There are people who have vast familiarity and experience with a subject that you are only beginning to examine.

It might not be a bad idea of take some time and look over the many posts and threads found in the Ex Scientologist Message Board archive.

It's easy to access past posts by any poster and past threads started by any poster.

You'll have to decide for yourself, of course, how much of the content you see is bias and how much is wisdom. :)



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The Scientological Onion: http://exscn.net/content/view/178/105/index.html
 

anonynon

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Imagine for a moment if we were instead talking about a MEDICAL DOCTOR.

And your "review" of his quality of medical care and prescribed medications was identical. . .


"Dr. Hubbard's (prescriptions) contain toxicity and booby traps.

If you wish to (take his prescribed medications) it pays to be very careful. Be prepared to question anything he (prescribes)."

Now, imagine someone reading that review and still being excited to go visit Dr. Hubbard for their cure.

Poor analogy, imo.

Imagine for a moment some poor guy/gal going to see an Oncologist about a "suspicious lump in their ???"

And then offered a choice:

"Dr. Quack's homeopathic prescriptions are perfectly harmless and safe, offer no risk, but may not actually be of any real benefit."

"Dr. Scary's prescriptions contain extremely toxic drugs, with numerous horrible side effects, will make your ??? fall out and your ??? go numb, but may actually slow the progression of your lump before it kills you."

I suppose lots of people would go with Dr. Q, and not many people would be very excited about going with Dr. S. But I wouldn't entirely dismiss science-based-medicine, were it me.
 

TheOriginalBigBlue

Gold Meritorious Patron
Scientology has a few gems sprinkled around the entrance to the snare but if one is interested in those gems then time is probably better spent studying the original sources that LRH based them on. Now, if you are interested in the study of confidence scams, manipulating group behavior or theocratic dictatorships then that is a very valid reason to study LRH and Scientology.

I’d suggest buying Scientology books second hand so you are not contributing to the abuse of others. Try Biblio.com.

"Pain makes man think, thinking makes men wise, and wisdom makes life endurable." - My Favorite Martian
 

phenomanon

Canyon
You are true! But I was only asking (with a bad english) only for communication materials :"D or better what study after dianetics 55 :)

You dissed the TRs, but those ARE the Communication Drills.
Affinity, Reality, and Communication do correspond to Crowley's Bliss, Knowledge, Being.
I had heard rumors of LRH being connected toJack Parsons around 1950, when I was first told about LRH and his discovery, DMSMH.
I am probably the only person left who would remember that. Fugitabout all that.
What you should study next is the "Suscess Thru Communication Course. The SSTC, I think it's called. I bought one on EBay last month for $40.00.
 

Gib

Crusader
For example ARC. ARC, for me, is a good simplification of communication. Why? because a lot of times in my life I have used this method to have a better relationship with people.
I know the critics about Hubbard, but, that's my point: I think Scientology is a philosophy and this mean that is something that is in continue evolution. Maybe in an early stage something wasn't so great, but it can be developed. With kindness, an open-mind and comprehension a lot of things in scientology are useful.
Knowledge is something that doesn't contemplate good or bad, like or dislike. Knowledge is something that contemplate the thirst to know.
I'm not the kind of person that see hubbard's write like the bible. I take what is useful for me and discard what I think is useless.
I come here ("freezone, independents, and other flavors of scientology") asking for something about communication, but everyone response were critics for Hubbard.
Okay, that's okay..but is not what I ask for and also, sometime ago don't you were a scientologist?
So at one time all of you were pro Hubbard and now you are against. From an extreme to another.
I think that a person can learn from everyone and from everything. Hubbard is not a saint for me but something he had write was useful for me other things no.
Communication in particular was something that work (except TR drills).

Now, thank you for all response. I am not a bad person :D I really appreciate your advice about hubbard. But I was asking for something else. Have a good day.

ps. sorry but english is not my first language

nobody said you were a bad person. This place ESMB is a forum, a debate, your views will be discussed. I'm an Ex, meaning I have been involved and yes I'm against scientology since I was involved. That's my success story.

Sure there is good in scientology, nobody would get involved otherwise, no?

The ARC triangle and communication and the book Dianetics 55 were things that hooked me in and got me involved.

What is communication?

I found this lecture after leaving scientology and reading the book why Hubbard's ARC triangle and Communication were not quite telling the truth, but more a incite to got one involved.

The lecture is called "Rise and Progress of Language", and what is language but communication, how did it start from the get go, how did we humans develop language or communication, the answers are here:

https://archive.org/stream/lecturesonrheto31blaigoog#page/n137/mode/2up

"Language, in general, signifies the expression of our ideas by certain articulate sounds, which are used as the signs of those ideas."

Likewise, the written word is the same depending on how well one express themselves thru words.
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
Ehm, I think I'm in the wrong forum. Thank you all for the replies.
You're at the right place. By right place I mean you conducting due diligence as to what you're getting yourself into regarding hubbard, dianetics and $cientology. Like any cult, $cientology is based on incrementally increasing thought reform cultist indoctrination. $cientology is insidious. The more you believe, the more you're indoctrinated until you're completely dependent on hubbard's $cientology.

How Thought Reform Works by the late Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D. (selected excerpts)

TACTIC 1. The individual is prepared for thought reform through increased suggestibility and/or "softening up," specifically through hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as: A. Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills; B. Excessive exact repetition of routine activities; C. Decreased sleep; D. Nutritional restriction.

TACTIC 2. Using rewards and punishments, efforts are made to establish considerable control over a person's social environment, time, and sources of social support. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered. (In the forerunner to coercive persuasion, brainwashing, this was rather easy to achieve through simple imprisonment.)

TACTIC 3. Disconfirming information and nonsupporting opinions are prohibited in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An "in-group" language is usually constructed.

TACTIC 4. Frequent and intense attempts are made to cause a person to re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject's basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control, and defense mechanisms as well as getting them to reinterpret their life's history, and adopt a new version of causality.

TACTIC 5. Intense and frequent attempts are made to undermine a person's confidence in himself and his judgment, creating a sense of powerlessness.

TACTIC 6. Nonphysical punishments are used such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques for creating strong aversive emotional arousals, etc.

TACTIC 7. Certain secular psychological threats [force] are used or are present: That failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief, or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequence, (e.g. physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.).

Another set of criteria has to do with defining other common elements of mind control systems. If most of Robert Jay Lifton's eight point model of thought reform is being used in a cultic organization, it is most likely a dangerous and destructive cult. These eight points follow:

Robert Jay Lifton's Eight Point Model of Thought Reform

1. ENVIRONMENT CONTROL. Limitation of many/all forms of communication with those outside the group. Books, magazines, letters and visits with friends and family are taboo. "Come out and be separate!"

2. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION. The potential convert to the group becomes convinced of the higher purpose and special calling of the group through a profound encounter/experience, for example, through an alleged miracle or prophetic word of those in the group.

3. DEMAND FOR PURITY. An explicit goal of the group is to bring about some kind of change, whether it be on a global, social, or personal level. "Perfection is possible if one stays with the group and is committed."

4. CULT OF CONFESSION. The unhealthy practice of self disclosure to members in the group. Often in the context of a public gathering in the group, admitting past sins and imperfections, even doubts about the group and critical thoughts about the integrity of the leaders.

5. SACRED SCIENCE. The group's perspective is absolutely true and completely adequate to explain EVERYTHING. The doctrine is not subject to amendments or question. ABSOLUTE conformity to the doctrine is required.

6. LOADED LANGUAGE. A new vocabulary emerges within the context of the group. Group members "think" within the very abstract and narrow parameters of the group's doctrine. The terminology sufficiently stops members from thinking critically by reinforcing a "black and white" mentality. Loaded terms and clichés prejudice thinking.

7. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON. Pre-group experience and group experience are narrowly and decisively interpreted through the absolute doctrine, even when experience contradicts the doctrine.

8. DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE. Salvation is possible only in the group. Those who leave the group are doomed.


Hubbard was a shameless lying con man and a paranoid narcissistic sociopath who died in hiding due to being convicted of fraud in France and as an unindicted co-conspirator for Operation Snow White. Do you really want to allow hubbard's lies, deceptions, pseudo-science, and outright batshit crazy rhetorical trickery into your mind? Take it from the people who lived and breathed hubbard & $cientology, you don't want to do this to yourself, it's not in your best interests.
 

Free Being Me

Crusader
Quotes about Scientology

Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia:

"Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill... (Scientology is) the world's largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy."

Kenneth Robinson, British Minister of Health:

"The government is satisfied that Scientology is socially harmful. It alienates members of families from each other and attributes squalid and disgraceful motives to all who oppose it; its authoritarian principles and practice are a potential menace to the personality and well being of those so deluded as to become followers; above all, its methods can be a serious danger to the health of those who submit to them... There is no power under existing law to prohibit the practice of Scientology; but the government has concluded that it is so objectionable that it would be right to take all steps within its power to curb its growth."

Federal prosecutor's memorandum to the judge urging stiff jail sentences for 9 top leaders of Scientology who had pleaded guilty to criminal charges:

"The crime committed by these defendants is of a breath and scope previously unheard of. No building, office, desk, or file was safe from their snooping and prying. No individual or organization was free from their despicable conspiratorial minds. The tools of their trade were miniature transmitters, lock picks, secret codes, forged credentials and any other device they found necessary to carry out their conspiratorial schemes."

Justice Latey, ruling in the High Court of London:

"Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxious...It is corrupt sinister and dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based on lies and deceit and has its real objective money and power for Mr. Hubbard... It is sinister because it indulges in infamous practices both to its adherents who do not toe the line unquestionably and to those who criticize it or oppose it. It is dangerous because it is out to capture people and to indoctrinate and brainwash them so they become the unquestioning captives and tools of the cult, withdrawn from ordinary thought, living, and relationships with others."

Judge Breckenridge, Los Angeles Superior Court:

"[The court record is] replete with evidence [that Scientology] is nothing in reality but a vast enterprise to extract the maximum amount of money from its adepts by pseudo scientific theories... and to exercise a kind of blackmail against persons who do not wish to continue with their sect.... The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder, L.Ron Hubbard."

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Paul Breckenridge, June 1984, in the Gerry Armstrong case:

"In addition to violating and abusing its own members' civil rights, the organization over the years with its 'fair game' doctrine has harassed and abused those persons not in the church whom it perceives as enemies."

California appellate court, 2nd. district, 3rd. division, July 29, 1991, B025920 & B038975, Super. Ct. No. C 420153:

"In January 1980, fearing a raid by law enforcement agencies, Hubbard's representatives ordered the shredding of all documents showing that Hubbard controlled Scientology organizations, finances, personnel, or the property at Gilman Hot Springs. In a two week period, approximately one million pages were shredded pursuant to this order."

California Supreme Court, United States v. Lee [455 U.S. 252,257,258 (1982)*/:

"When a person is subjected to coercive persuasion [as in Scientology] without his knowledge or consent ...[he may] develop serious and sometimes irreversible physical and psychiatric disorders, up to and including schizophrenia, self-mutilation, and suicide."

USDJ Judge Leonie Brinkema 4 Oct 96 Memorandum Opinion, RTC vs Lerma:

"The dispute in this case surrounds Lerma's acquisition and publication on the Internet of texts that the Church of Scientology considers sacred and protects heavily from unauthorized disclosure. Founded by L. Ron Hubbard, the Scientology religion attempts to explain the origin of negative spiritual forces in the world and advances techniques for improving one's own spiritual well-being. Scientologists believe that most human problems can be traced to lingering spirits of an extraterrestrial people massacred by their ruler, Xenu, over 75 million years ago. These spirits attach themselves by "clusters" to individuals in the contemporary world, causing spiritual harm and negatively influencing the lives of their hosts ".

Lord Denning:

"...capable of such danger that the public interest demands that people should know what is going on"

Judge Constandia Angelaki:

"It is an organization with medical, social and ethical practices that are dangerous and harmful,"

"It claims to act freely so as to draw members who subsequently undergo ... brainwashing by dictated ways of thinking that limit reaction capabilities."

Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia, Justice Brookings, 1982:

" ...the teaching of Scientology and the practice of Scientology will result in the commission of many offenses and may well result in the commission of many others."

California 9th Circuit Appeals court in the Zolan case, after secret Scientology tapes were remanded from the U.S. Supreme Court:

"The purpose of the MCCS project was to cover up past criminal wrongdoing.... The MCCS project involved the discussion and planning for future frauds against the IRS in violation of 18C USC 371."

Ted Gunderson, former head of the FBI's Los Angeles office, quoted in TIME May 6, 1991:

"In my opinion the church has one of the most effective intelligence operations in the U.S. rivaling even that of the FBI."

IRS Final Adverse Ruling re "Church of Spiritual Technology," July 8, 1988:

"The California case also demonstrates inurement... amid continuous representations denying control by and benefit to Mr. Hubbard, and a tenacious denial of the actual state of the organization's actual affairs in the face of overwhelming evidence establishing the true nature of the organization's operations." ...Such self dealing does not lose its identity as private benefit and inurement merely because it is conducted through intermediary individuals and\or organizations.

California appellate court, 2nd district, 7th division, Wollersheim v. Church of Scientology of California, Civ. No. B023193 Cal. Super. (1986):

"Substantial evidence supports the conclusion Scientology leaders made the deliberate decision to ruin Wollersheim economically and possible psychologically.... We do not mean to suggest Scientology's retributive program as described in the evidence of this case represented a full scale modern day "inquisition." Nevertheless there are some parallels in purpose and effect. "Fair game" like the "inquisition" targeted "heretics." "Other testimony established Scientology is a hierarchal organization which exhibits near paranoid attitudes toward certain institutions and individuals---in particular the government, mental health professions, disaffected members, and others who criticize the organization or its leadership... During trial, Wollersheim's experts testified Scientology's "auditing" and "disconnect" practices constituted "brainwashing" and "thought reform" akin to what the Chinese and North Koreans practiced on American prisoners of war." "A religious practice which takes place in the context of this level of coercion has less religious value than one the recipient engages in voluntarily. Even more significantly, it poses a greater threat to society to have coerced religious practices inflicted on its citizens." "Using its position as religious leader, the church and its agents coerced Wollersheim into continuing auditing even though his sanity was repeatedly threatened by this practice... Thus there is adequate proof the religious practice in this instance caused real harm to the individual and the appellant's outrageous conduct caused that harm... Church practices conducted in a coercive environment are not qualified to be voluntary religious practices entitled to first amendment religious freedom guarantees." "We hold that the state has a compelling interest in allowing its citizens to recover for serious emotional injuries they suffer through religious practices they are coerced into accepting. Such conduct is too outrageous to be protected under the constitution and too unworthy to be privileged under the law of torts."

U.S. v Kuch 288 F Sup. 439 (1968):

"Those who seek constitutional protections for their participation in an establishment of religion and freedom to practice its beliefs must not be permitted the special freedoms this special sanctuary may provide merely by adopting religious nomenclature and cynically using it as a shield to protect them when participating in anti social conduct that otherwise stands condemned."

United States v. Article or Device, Etc., 333 F.Supp. 357 (D.D.C. 1971) [regarding Scientology's "E-Meter"]:

"The bulk of the material is replete with false medical and scientific claims devoid of any religious overlay or reference." (333 F.Supp. at 361) "The Court's opinion directly and forcefully confronts the issue of claimed First Amendment protection by Scientology. The Court then held that the practice of Scientology was secular." (333 F.Supp. at 359

Commissioners of the City of Clearwater, Florida, public hearings, May 5-10, 1982. The Commission received documentary and testimonial evidence with respect to the operation, activities and conduct of Scientology. Based upon the sworn testimony of witnesses, affidavits, state and federal court decisions, and miscellaneous documents reviewed and considered, the Commission made the following factual recitation:

"Evidentiary fact:
The Church of Scientology is currently engaged in a nationwide conspiracy to impede and obstruct municipal, state and federal taxing authorities, by adopting a religious and charitable guise to avoid payment of taxes.
"Scientology's internal policies state: "They (the public) want ministers. We will show them what ministers look like" (Vol. 1 p.41). "Churches are looked upon as reform groups. Therefore, we must act like a reform group" (Vol.1 p.196).
"Scientology has nothing to do with religion. The Church did not adopt the religious guise until it was necessary to seek First Amendment protection (Vol.4 p.405).
"Scientology uses a religious image checklist designed to falsely portray a religious image to mislead officials (Vol. 2 p.238,239). "Church policy instructs members to lie to inquiring officials (Vol.1 p.226,227).

Documentary evidence in Church of Spiritual Technology vs U.S., November 22, 1989

"The goal of the department [of governmental affairs] is to bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by a high level ability to control and in its absence by a low level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control suchagencies." -- LRH
"The purpose of the legal officer is to help LRH handle every legal, government, suit, accounting and tax contact or action... and to bring the greatest possible confusion and loss to its enemies." -- LRH

"Guardian Order 060971" seized in FBI authorized search of Scientology headquarters:

"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:
(T1) Depopularizing the enemy to the point of obliteration.
(T2) Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media.
(T3) Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figures.
(T4) Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance..."

Documentary evidence in the Armstrong case:

"You can be merciless whenever your will is crossed and you have the right to be merciless." -- LRH

California Supreme Court, in United States v. Lee 455 U.S. 252,257,258 (1982):

"When a person is subjected to coercive persuasion [as in Scientology] without his knowledge or consent ...[he may] develop serious and sometimes irreversible physical and psychiatric disorders, up to and including schizophrenia, self-mutilation, and suicide."
 

Out/Int

Patron with Honors
I've never been in Scientology. I have study by myself a lot of tech. My need and my hope is to have a better communication and learn what LRH tells about.
I've read Dianetics 55 and I've try to listen the Unification course.
What else should I learn? What material I need to better understand this subject?

Thank you all.
Free Being Me - THANK YOU for all of that information. Wow - I am going to give it to my friend who is in doubt and on the fence.

You are walking into a mind fuck of epic proportions.

Scientology is evil, L Ron Hubbard was a criminal

There is no state of Clear - Dianetics is fraud and deception

Scientology is a trap - one that will mess you up

Try "The Secret", Tony Robbins and other practices like Zen Buddhism or mindful meditation - it is effective and much safer and you will have your "wins" for virtually FREE
 

Veda

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The cheese

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And the trap


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Initially, my involvement with Scientology was through books, and without any use of an e-meter, and mostly away from the "Org."

However, I did, eventually, become involved in Scientology Inc. - as a student and auditor. And, yes, I had some positive experiences even then - amongst the insanity.

Years later, to gain an additional perspective, I spent a year reviewing the auditing portion of the subject (from ARC S/W to NOTs), as an auditor OUTSIDE Scientology (at a break-away Mission), so as to see the counseling "tech" in application, outside the Totalist (Totalitarian) environment of Scientology Inc.

I realized that auditing was a bait and switch operation, with auditing being presented initially as primarily asking the person to look and, then, becoming, primarily, telling the person what he will see. (Very close to hypnotism).

The better aspects of auditing acted as the solvent for the slowly hardening Scientology glue.

Ending on a "win" for my pcs, I advised my pcs not to venture into the confidential portions of Scientology auditing, where they would be engulfed in the Scientology labyrinth.


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IMO, Scientology is a secretive and manipulative doctrine with a truth-coating. The truth-coating is displayed while the negatives are often hidden or disguised; or, when they no longer can be denied, are rationalized or "spun."

The Scientology package, as designed by its founder, is both positive and negative. Scientology is a carefully crafted mix of "Black Scientology" and "White Scientology," resulting in Scientology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv49jlyX-co&feature=player_embedded


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Auditing is an English language word.

Amongst synonyms listed by Merriam-Webster are: "Examination, going-over, review, scan, scrutiny, view."

The Latin root word means, "a hearing," or "to hear."

Scientology has adopted the word, "auditing."

Those introduced to auditing by Scientologists, both inside and outside the CofS, are often told the above definitions are descriptive of Scientology auditing.

IMO, it's important to discern between the "bait" portion of auditing where one is primarily asked, and the "switch" portion of "auditing" where one is primarily told.


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"This is a cold blooded and factual account of your last sixty trillion years," from 1952's 'What to Audit' found Hubbard telling others the contents of their minds, but it was premature "mind grope," just as the early 1950s e-meter reactions projected on the wall with shadows, while the audience went "ooh!" and "ahh!", was premature "Your e-meter will tell you"-ism, and the 1951 "no rights of any kind" was premature SP Doctrine, and the 1951 "dispose of quietly and without sorrow" was premature Fair Game Law and premature disconnection - disconnection in its most extreme form.

It was too early for the implementation of these ideas on the still small, fragile and tentative membership. That would need to wait for a decade, as would Hubbard's implementation of most of the ideas outlined in the "enigmatic" (fraudulent) "Russian Textbook on Psycho-politics."



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Probably the most revealing single example of Hubbard's use of "enemy tactics" on his own followers.


In the mean time, Hubbard surrounded himself with those excited about his much advertised vision of a better world, and excited about the full releasing of spiritual ability.

Hubbard liked to write and he liked to lecture, and he had a knack as a practical psychologist. He drew on the ideas and innovations of the most creative of those around him, and drew on his own knowledge of abreaction (catharsis, "get it [buried thoughts and emotions] off your chest") therapy, Korzybski's General Semantics with its "earlier similars" etc,, and Aleister Crowley's Magic(k). He re-worked the (four 'letters' - ingredients - of the) Kabbalistic 'tetragrammaton', and it became his 'Four Conditions of Existence'. Hubbard rewrote Crowley's 'Naples Arrangement' and it became his 'The Factors'. He borrowed Crowley's idea of a multiplicity of infinite minds and further excited Scientologists with that notion. None of these were original with Crowley, who was as much a relay point as was Hubbard. Yet, unlike Crowley, Hubbard would eventually incorporate the methods of psychological warfare into his system, and use those methods, not only on his perceived enemies, but on his own followers.

And when he finally - in the mid 1960s - unleashed, mostly covertly, the psychological warfare methods of the "Russian Textbook" on Scientologists, he also returned to fully utilizing those ideas he had briefly tested more than a decade earlier. He gave them a past, he gave them a future, he told them the contents of their own minds, and made it plain that only HE knew and others were going to be told.

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Hubbard had written confidentially of the importance of "using enemy tactics," and would even use those "enemy tactics" on his own loyal followers. He had written of psychiatrists in August 1963:

"Psychiatry is authoritarian and tells the person what's wrong with him, often introducing a new lie. Scientology finds out what's wrong with the person from the person."

Soon to follow would be the secret and very serious, and very dangerous, and vital to your survival "Clearing Course," "OT 2" and "OT 3," in which Hubbard would do what he said the psychiatrists did.

Hubbard had done this in 1952, but now it was formalized and institutionalized, and a senior part of the doctrine of Scientology doctrine.


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Asking a person, "How ya doing?" and listening attentively, and acknowledging, qualifies as "auditing" by an introductory definition of "auditing," as does asking a person to recall a pleasant experience, listening, and then acknowledging.

Such introductory actions, presented as "auditing" are often what leads a person into Scientology, and causes the person to pursue the Scientology "bait and switch" Grade Chart.

Scientology/Scientology Philosophy/Scientology Doctrine, is sneaky. It wraps itself in positives so as to mislead the unsuspecting.

Not recognizing this mostly benign introductory aspect means not recognizing the "cheese" part of the trap, and means also not recognizing a main part of Scientology's disguise layer.

Thoroughly describing Scientology is the most dangerous thing that can be done to Scientology.

Scientology uses good people, and uses - sometimes - good ideas, to mislead, to build confidence, and to trap.

A description without noting the above is incomplete, IMO.


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The definition of auditing changes as the person descends further into Scientology. At first, auditing is little more than one person talking with another person. At this stage, in and of itself, auditing is, essentially, benign. It may even be beneficial.

This "sells" the person on the idea of "auditing."

Then it becomes something else.


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Issuing forth a Bronx cheer,
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indiscriminately, on the topic of auditing is helpful to Scientology. Such a Bronx cheer asserts that one of Scientology's - initially benign, and even helpful - enticements, and lead-ins, is entirely without value, which is often simply not so.

Describing Scientology fully means gritting one's teeth and forcing oneself to recognize that there are some twinkling ornaments of light, and (even) truth, wrapped around the black hole of Scientology.
 
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