My post and thoughts on Tony O blog regarding Chris Shelton interview with John P and Waser, for what's it worth: https://tonyortega.org/2018/03/08/w...to-newly-elected-ronald-reagan/#disqus_thread "What the troika (LOL) of Chris, Waser and John P, in their analysis of Hubbard's letter to Ronald Reagan is missing is Hubbard's rhetoric. You have to include that for a fuller picture. If you analyze Hubbard only from a logical POV, you are missing the other two points of rhetoric, persuasion, which are ethos and pathos. Afterall, CATS became a movement unto itself, you see. Hubbard used this: "rhetoric is the art of discovering all available means of persuasion. A speaker supports the probability of a message by logical, ethical, and emotional proofs. Some form of logos, ethos, and pathos is present in every possible public presentation that exists." So in Hubbard's letter to Reagan, what did Hubbard write emotionally and credibility wise to try to persuade Reagan? If you examine that, you see, that Hubbard was a rhetoric user. It didn't work on Reagan, but it worked on many people."