Dror Soref - another Scn arrest

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  1. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Looks like Sean A. Seward and Michelle K. Seward....are husband and wife?

    They have a 1.5 million dollar house in Santa Clarita....

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  2. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I'm a bit confused about the 2 different cases.

    It seems that the first one.... PC052908.....filled in 2012...and being heard in the Chatsworth Courthouse...North Valley District of the Superior Court of Los Angeles County....is a CIVIL case...

    Kristy Alley has gotten some of her testimony in this case kept blocked from public records....

    http://www.lacourt.org/casesummary/ui/casesummary.aspx?

    It might be that proceeding and or information from that case....led to the Criminal Case that has some of the same defendants....that are being charged with in this new case. I am not sure about that...but its possible. Dror Soref, Michelle Seward and "not forgotten LLC" are defendants in both cases....

    But one is Civil and one is Criminal.

    It is possible that Kristy Alley could be charged Criminally, in the future over this???

    Edited: probably not...the State has made their arrests. OR, it looks like Dror Soref might be the fall guy?
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2015
  3. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    From what I remember of Kirsty Alley's case, it wasn't a Ponzi scheme, but about false claims regarding her diet program. Claims of benefits not proven medically and it was Scientology based in some way, like including Niacin or something.
     
  4. Leland

    Leland Crusader

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  5. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    OK....getting on unfamiliar ground here....I am not a lawyer...but:

    The STATE sues in Criminal Matters. "Usually" there are Fines, and possible Jail Terms....

    But is this case....there happens to be a State Run Victim Fund....just for these types of incidents.

    I doubt that victims will be made "whole" again financially....but at least partially....

    I imagine at the couple suing in that Civil Lawsuit....could be considered Victims in this Criminal Lawsuit....
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2015
  6. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    I didn't see the list of charges for both Soref and Seward posted here so I will post them now:

    Both are charged with the same counts, all 72 of

    Criminal Case Summary
    Case Number: LACBA439544-02
    Defendant Name: SOREF, DROR
    Violation Date:
    November 27, 2007
    Filing Date:
    September 8, 2015
    Courthouse:
    Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center

    Criminal Case Summary
    Case Number: LACBA439544-01
    Defendant Name: SEWARD, MICHELLE KENEN
    Violation Date:
    November 27, 2007
    Filing Date:
    September 8, 2015
    Courthouse:
    Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center


    Upcoming Scheduled Events

    Date Time Location Dept/Room Number Event
    November 16, 2015 08:30 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 PRELIM SETTING/RESETTING
     
  7. Leland

    Leland Crusader

  8. Leland

    Leland Crusader

  9. Leland

    Leland Crusader

  10. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

  11. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Sorry AnonyMary.....I'm confused about this. Looks like 3 cases...not 2.

    OK,

    Case # BC492536 is a Criminal Suit....brought by the State. As you post above, it is over. ( I was not aware of this case.)

    Case # PC052908 is a Civil Suit.....and it does reference the settlement above....but it is still going on...and a search on the Court House web page shows a filing just last month...on 09/21/2015.

    Yes, this thread is about a NEW Criminal Arrest, and Criminal Law Suit. ( but the 2 arrested are the same as in the above 2 cases...)

    It is case # BA439544 (02)?
     
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  12. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Gold Meritorious Sponsor

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    Re: Dror Soref the "Clear" and "OT"


    One wonders how many Scientology "huge wins" and "blowouts" and OT "abilities attained" are required for a person to be indicted for a massive fraud that could send them to prison for life?

    What factors must be involved in order to turn a seemingly normal person into a lying, scheming, cheating frame of mind like....OSA? (Operating Scam Artist).

    The following Scientology "factors" about Dror the OT are a gift humbly tendered to mankind...

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    Notes:

    * Despite several "MARRIAGE COURSES" Dror had a failed marriage and got divorced.

    * Despite successfully attesting the level called "Responsibility and the State of OT", Dror was quite obviously neither OT nor responsible. In fact he was kind of the opposite of "responsible" but that didn't prevent him from wildly grinning, FNing and bragging about how amazingly "responsible" he was.

    * Despite successfully completing L-11, Dror did not remotely appear to match the description of the phenomenal abilities he was supposed to have. The promo states that: "L-11 is called the New Life Rundown. It is a case booster. L-11 addresses the main block of irrationality upon which a being introverts and which diminishes one's power. Handling this block can produce a new viewpoint on life which greatly increased sanity and rationality."

    * Dror attested to Grade I, which gives a being: "The ability to recognize the source of problems and make them vanish." When one is indicted and thrown in jail, it appears that one's superpowers apparently do not work.

    * Dror attained the state of "CLEAR" (clear #27,653). Per Hubbard, a Clear has a very high level of "ethics". And Scientology websites even today boast about the unprecedented state and abilities of a clear. Here is a cut-n-paste from Scientology's own website.





    Any other questions on whether Scientology works?
     
    Last edited: Oct 22, 2015
  13. ForLease

    ForLease Maximus Squirrel

    The number of lawsuit, threatened lawsuit and arrest threads on the first page of ESMB is orders-of-magnitude-unprecedented-on-this-planet.

    But I know we can do better in 2016!
     
  14. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Leland, what I was referring to in that quote was that I was informing this thread that I had updated the original post on the other thread about the civil case; I included the docket and the default judgement amounts there. This was a Civil case against both of them and a host of other involved parties - brought by the State of California. It is what lead to the criminal charges against Dror and Michelle individually in Sept 2015. Case number # BC492536 That case is closed.

    Here is that link for the readers here to read about that case:

    State-of-Calif-Sues-Scientology-IAS-Patron-Movie-Producers-over-Ponzi-Scam-of-Elderly
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...m-of-Elderly&p=1068648&viewfull=1#post1068648

    I am posting the following to make sure there is understanding on all these cases, and to provide an update:

    With the criminal cases, for both Michelle and Dror, they are listed in the online criminal case search results separately but under the same case number- # BA439544 as 2 different parties by ID #.

    The search results ( at this link)
    http://www.lacourt.org/criminalcasesummary/ui/index.aspx?msg=1

    Look like this
    Once you click the case number for each, you will find above each person's name their full case # . It starts with "LACBA439544" ( Los Angeles Criminal Court) with the defendant's ID number as an ending extension# ie: Dror's is Case# LACBA439544-02 . Michelle's is the same but ends in -01

    Here is the listing for each

    Online Services
    Criminal Case Summary
    Case Number:
    LACBA439544-02
    Defendant Name: SOREF, DROR
    Violation Date:
    November 27, 2007
    Filing Date:
    September 8, 2015
    Courthouse:
    Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center


    Online Services
    Criminal Case Summary
    Case Number:
    LACBA439544-01
    Defendant Name: SEWARD, MICHELLE KENEN
    Violation Date:
    November 27, 2007
    Filing Date:
    September 8, 2015
    Courthouse:
    Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center


    Both have the following listed :

    Upcoming Scheduled Events

    Date Time Location Dept/Room Number Event
    February 23, 2016 08:30 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 READINESS HEARING

    March 1, 2016 08:00 AM Clara Shortridge Foltz Criminal Justice Center 030 PRELIMINARY HEARING

    Right now most of what is noted in each file section ( like Charges)appears the same for both parties, except that Dror had to post bail and get bail reviews and Michelle didn't. However, as the case proceeds, things may be more individualized for each. Things will start moving quicker, and some charges against both - or one or the other - may change after the March preliminary hearing.

    Hope this helps clarify things.
     
  15. Victoria

    Victoria Patron Meritorious

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    Whatever the "danger rundown" is, he seems to have flunked it.
     

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