Ex-Scn Still on Mailing Lists. Close with Scn Family, Haven't been active for years

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  1. Gizmo

    Gizmo Rabble Rouser

    Re: Ex-Scn Still on Mailing Lists. Close with Scn Family, Haven't been active for yea

    The cult just can't be honest - seems it's just not in their nature.

    I do want to see big blue bulldozed into a parking lot.
  2. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: Ex-Scn Still on Mailing Lists. Close with Scn Family, Haven't been active for yea

    We wrote letters late into the night to files where the person had just the slightest contact with the org and then nothing for years until the mail was completely undeliverable (Adunk - Address Unknown). We didn't have internet back then so I wouldn't be surprised if they have kept all those Adunk files for decades in the basement with roaches and leaking pipes and are now trying to track everybody down until the file is sooo dead they have to use DNA off of the crumbling Dianetics book invoices to find you.
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  4. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    One of the most stupidest letters was from Celebrity Center. It had a feel of threat and a don't call us, we'll call you attitude saying, "This is your LAST magazine from us! Our records state you did not buy anything from CC, therefore you will be removed from our mailing lists." My thoughts were, YAY!!!!!

    The thing is, I did a couple services there and purchased materials.
  5. JackStraw

    JackStraw Silver Meritorious Patron

    Do you think it would be wise to send a reply: "About fucking time!" ?

  6. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    No. They would regard a reply as a "reach ". It would also be a stat. They would keep mailing.
  7. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    Absolutely! They found your button, yea! Any communication is better than no communication, any game...
  8. cleared cannibal

    cleared cannibal Silver Meritorious Patron

    You know I have recently sent somethings back and asked to be removed from the lists. Just kind of an experiment on my part. Really can't do a lot of harm to me as I am getting a lot now. I am just kind of interested on what they have to say to me.
  9. EZ Linus

    EZ Linus BT-free since 2003!

    I'll tell you what I have done with at least one org. You have no idea what a junk mail nightmare I've been through with them - even while I was a full-fledged Scientologist. But when I left, I was of course even more irritated. I took the materials they sent and ripped it into little pieces, making sure the piece with my name and address was still in tact and legible. And they sent me a lot of materials. I stuffed it all into their postage paid return envelope, along with a post-it that said, "TAKE ME OFF YOUR FUCKING MAILING LIST!" The envelope was good and heavy too. They have to pay for that and there was some satisfaction in that I suppose.

    But of course, that did not work.

    I have engaged them dozens and dozens of times on the phone, and in person, both when I was in and since I was out, pleading with them to fix their files or to take me off their lists because I was in several orgs' databases in triplicate, sometimes more! I'd get mail from Flag, AO, CC, LA Org for up to four variations of my name, plus my partner's name, and two other family members who once took a introductory course 15 years before. Why couldn't/can't they get their system straight?? Once when I was in, I brought a huge stack of Celebrity magazines delivered to my house into the Pres' Office at CC demanding they straighten this out, and

    nope, nothing. My mailbox would still be so stuffed I could hardly open it at times.

    (Keep in mind, someone on staff is counting each of these mailers as a stat and another member of Scientology among the millions upon the earth.)

    I looked into filing this thing at the post office, and I would have done this. I was about to. You can claim you are receiving obscene mail. They would have to stop. But this was going on more than a decade after I left the group and then I found myself on the phone with someone from SCN INT. We had a number of conversations over the course of a month and I not only informed him that I was writing a book, but also if he didn't do something about the mail situation, I was going to call my lawyer. It was more involved than that, but

    somehow... the mail began to lessen. I haven't seen any in a long time. And I mean probably a year or more now.
  10. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    Unfortunately, for people having the "tech" on duplication, comprehension, mis-understood words and understanding, this did not work for me. I got MORE letters and calls asking why, what did we do, etc.

    The best thing to do is to send back the business reply envelope without any response. If everyone did that, we all would get removed a lot faster.

    Annual BRE (Business reply envelope) permit is 160.00 + accounting fee 500.00. Thereafter each response cost is 49 cents PER oz. plus 11 cents. The org has to pay an advance deposit account to cover this.

    If the BRE account is zero, the post office holds onto the letters and sends a pick up notice to the org. It has to be paid for in cash if not, the mail gets tossed after so many days. We'd raise the cash to pick this up because some could contain checks for books or materials.

    A zero balance on our account used to put a stop on our bulk mail permit in the past ( a HUGE crime per policy) so the org would make this account a priority over purchasing TP, rent or utilities. However the org can use the HCO Book account to pay for this per policy.

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