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  1. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    It could be that this was one piece of tech that actually worked, in that it raised confront to the point of being able to confront walking away.
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  2. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron Meritorious

    There's probably more truth in that observation that you realise, Enthetan. I did realise on the LOC that my 'hat in life' (which is what the course is designed to help you uncover) did not involve staying on staff. So, in fact, I would have to say that the LOC did what it claimed to do.
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  3. pineapple

    pineapple Patron Meritorious

    Yes. But at the time Hubbard wrote DMSMH, you could get products containing amphetamine OTC without a prescription. In particular benzedrine inhalers for asthma. You could break open the inhaler and chew the amphetamine-soaked paper inside for a nice speed high. There's a description of the process in William Burroughs' autobiographical novel "Junkie" (1953).

    Last time I looked the recommendation of benzedrine as an aid to auditing was still in DMSMH, as was the good word LRH puts in for marijuana -- he says it's "better than alcohol to keep a neurotic producing."
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  4. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    I was a KTL/LOC Review Auditor.
    I never actually did the courses. I did the 'Read It, Drill It, Do it" type of training.
  5. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    The Benny soaked blotters from those inhalers was too bitter to chew. We bought some kind of anything that came in a capsule, empty the capsule, then put a ball of blotter in there. You could swallow it then without tasting the foul stuff. o the good old days! LOL.
    LRH said that the only thing marijuana did for him was it gave him bad breath.

  6. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Didn't you share a joint with Hubbard in the early 1950s? Or am I remembering that incorrectly?

    Hubbard smoked mentholated cigarettes, so it's no wonder marijuana tasted bad to him.

    Also, as I recall, if one's on amphetamine, the effect of Marijuana is usually hardly noticeable.

    There are at least one or two threads on ESMB that contain a compendium of Hubbard's alcohol and drug use.

    This is an area that Scientologists find "unthinkable."

    Flakey Foont after attesting to Clear.
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  7. Welcome!!! Glad to have you on ESMB! ❤
  8. ThetansJellyRoll

    ThetansJellyRoll New Member

    Welcome! I'm new as well! I like your picture!
  9. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Recently, Christian Stolte wrote a song entitled "Pinks and Grey's" as a tribute to LRH. The video can be viewed over here:

    Here are the lyrics:

    In 1911 in Tilden, Nebraska this son-of-a-bitch was born
    Biggest goddamned liar in the world, it was amazing
    Turns out he was adopted by the Blackfoot Indians
    It was a blood ceremony
    He was four

    What did they see in this child?
    What did they do that for?
    He said, you don’t get rich writing science fiction
    If you want to get rich, start a religion
    And that’s just what he did

    That’s just what that chee-chalking carnie barker did
    You know I’m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys
    Oh I’m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys
    Pinks and greys

    All men shall be my slaves
    All women shall succumb to my charms
    All mankind shall grovel at my feet
    And not know why
    Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky
    Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky

    Make money! Make more money!
    Make others produce so as to make money!
    However you get them in or why,
    Just do it, just fucking do it
    Because the only way you can control anybody is to lie to them
    You can write that in your book in great big letters
    The only way is to lie, you gotta lie

    And that’s just what he did
    That’s just what that chain-smoking charlatan did

    Now I’m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys
    Oh I’m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys
    Pinks and greys

    When will I get you ever?
    There are no snakes at the bottom of your bed
    Men’s chains they fall from you, your head is high

    Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky
    Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky
    Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky
  10. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron

    "Any label on the paragoric but make sure it's on Pall Mall!"
  11. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron


    Try again Veda. Go get a glass "bubblepipe" and pop in a cool crisp California Chardonnay; a few sparkly shards, flick open the old Zippo and summon a flame until the heavy grey vapors fill the sphere then draw in the wholesome refreshing goodness of crystal methedrine and mellow out...

    Then to give some phantasmically inspiring depth to the graceful mental state roll up a doobie of the kind...
  12. pineapple

    pineapple Patron Meritorious

    I need you to elucidate me on that one, CP. :questions:
  13. cakemaker

    cakemaker Patron Meritorious

    What was the given reason for having the Red and Green volumes locked up?
  14. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    I'm curious about this also. Were these the original vols where they cancelled a lot of stuff around 1980 on the supposed basis that they were not pure LRH tech and were written by other unauthorized people or were they the later generation of vols?

    My first thought was there was too much stuff in them that had been cancelled or revised and they didn't want people using them unless they were aware of this and where to find the revisions. Just the magnitude of cancellations and revisions would also be bad optics for a tech that was always infallible. My next thought is that they finally cognited it collectively was all too out-PR crazy unless someone had been sufficiently indoctrinated to not use common sense and critical thinking skills. Another thought is that they may have developed something of a theft problem by reason of the kinds of people who they were allowing on lines now.
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  15. pineapple

    pineapple Patron Meritorious

    Maybe they want to encourage you to buy your own.

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  16. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron

    Paragoric has opiates in it and back in the fifties hipsters used to soak Pall Malls in it, leave it to dry out then smoke it and get high.

    For all the bogus factors of life then brand loyalty was hip; "Any label on the paragoric but make sure it's on Pall Mall" was the cry.
  17. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    You repeatedly promote the use of dangerous drugs, such as crystal methedrine.

    In my opinion, that's ample reason for you to be banned.
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  18. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    What's the point in banning him, he's like whack-a-mole, he just crops up again with a different nick.
  19. vumba

    vumba Danielle Chamberlin