Outstanding video, containing avalanches of facts that are not generally known. This was one of the best investments of 2 hours one could make if one had any romantic ideas about Mike Rinder and Marty Rathbun. The stunning level of deception and fact-blurring that Rinder and Rathbun engage is laid bare in this video. Anyone hoping to understand who Rinder/Rathbun are and what they are doing should watch this. Naturally there are many good attributes both as human beings and as anti-COS critics that M&M possess. But they have never ceased being Fair Game advocates and practitioners, despite their histrionics about the Squirrelbusters. What could be more simple than to reveal what they know about the Armstrong saga, IRS battles and other obvious criminal campaigns that were waged. If they are no longer part of such a philosophy, they would actually be ANXIOUS to tell what they know. Their silence is not golden, but instead goldenrod, the very same SP-fighting tactics that Armstrong is still blowing the whistle on. Feeling a tad bit uncomfortable there, Marty, are ya--with Jerry Armstrong speaking so lucidly and deliberately?