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Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by FormerScn, Jul 16, 2017.

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  1. FormerScn

    FormerScn Patron

    Long time reader, 1st time poster.

    I have many people connected to me who are still in. I, myself, am not so sure about any of this any more.

    I understand about how OSA monitors this board. So I am just saying "hi" for now.

    And FUCK YOU, osa!

    (man that felt good!)
     
  2. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    "Number of times over equals certainty."
     
  3. FormerScn

    FormerScn Patron

    LOL!!

    Thanks for the "in-ARC" welcome!:happydance:
     
  4. Lurker5

    Lurker5 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Hi Former :wave: :welcome:
     
  5. FormerScn

    FormerScn Patron

    Hi Lurker5! You are like a long time hero to me with all your compassionate advice.

    Thank you for your contributions. I would have never made it to where I am today without your posts on ESMB!

    I'm a Big Fan!
     
  6. scooter

    scooter Gold Meritorious Patron

    Let me second that:

    FUCK YOU, OSA !!!

    :devil:

    Oh, and :wave:

    :welcome:
     
  7. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Welcome FormerScn.

    If OSA do monitor this board then they must be really jealous that we are free to say what we want and they are still slaves.

    Hey OSA, stop being losers and join a winning team!
     
  8. AngeloV

    AngeloV Gold Meritorious Patron

    Welcome. Good for you on peeling back a few layers of the onion.

    [my bold]: You will be certain very soon. You will realize the amount of lying [STRIKE]Hubbard [/STRIKE]the Old Quack did. The states of clear and OT do not exist and can never be obtained. Ever. He lied right on the cover of dianetics calling it a science when he KNEW it wasn't. The lies started there and continued for the rest of his life.
     
  9. Enthetan

    Enthetan Mutant

    My guess is that OSA doesn't have people directly monitoring this board, but rather has non-Scn people (perhaps contracted out to India or some such place) looking through and maintaining a database of possibly-identifying information on members (eg, what org member was active at, connection to prominent scientologists or to Sea Org members, etc) with OSA looking at the summaries.
     
  10. NoName

    NoName A Girl Has No Name

    It has to be Tone 40.

    Drill it as loudly and certainly as you said "Off with her head!"
     
  11. Lone Star

    Lone Star Crusader

    I think your guess is correct. It's too risky to have actual OSA people monitor these boards. They are just as susceptible to turning on DM as any rank and file member.
     
  12. EZ Linus

    EZ Linus BT-free since 2003!

    :welcome:
    Welcome welcome welcome! Three times the charm, ya know. :eyeroll:

    From experience I can tell you that it's a little bit tricky keeping your old friends after a while.

    Do you have family in?
     
  13. Mimsey Borogrove

    Mimsey Borogrove Crusader

    You assume they believe what they read here. They don't - it's only CI, (counter intention) I think rather, they are convinced of the rightness of Clearing the Planet, and that trumps whatever we PTS, SP, DBs have to say. It's the "stable data that restrains the confusion" of the possible rightness of the poster's here. What we write has no traction whatsoever in their minds.

    Ah, life in a bubble.

    Edit: more likely, they have an agenda that prioritizes what they read - they want clues of identity, signs of leaks of inside information, hints of future suppression, things that show what of the faithful are under the radar, or are reading out-ethics online entheta. I once got a sec check because of what someone posted about me on line. I didn't have a clue who the person was or what they said, until the MAA 'splained me. However, I wasn't given a choice - I got to pay for and receive a damn sec check. They were pulling the string - they wanted to know if I was a plant or worse. They are a spy organization, after all. They want to know who is on board and who isn't.

    Mimsey
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2017
  14. FormerScn

    FormerScn Patron

    Thanks for the welcome.

    I don't feel comfortable talking about my situation. I'm here to learn, really.

    I started this thread to thank you people for all you have done for me.

    Thank you all.
     
  15. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Have no way of knowing what's done currently but, in bygone days, and for a span of many years, there were two categories of "public": those that were asked to work - part time, sometimes on only one or a few occasions - as a spy, collector of information, etc. from "enemies," or "squirrels," or "SPs," and those (most) "public" who were not asked.

    The person (the "case officer"), choosing which public to ask to "volunteer," would select someone who, he thought, could perform the task, be convincing, and not become flustered or "enturbulated."

    It was a "given" that one would not discuss any of this with average public, as it would "enturbulate" them and, probably, most would have become "enturbulated," as they believed that associating with "squirrels," "SPs," etc. was forbidden.

    My guess is that these two categories still exist today.

    Those in one category (spy material) don't mention it to the other category (not spy material), and the other category has no idea the first category exists.

    Very compartmentalized and secretive.

    As hard as it may be to believe there are people who've seen just about all criticism of Scientology, etc., and are impervious to it.

    If anyone has family or friends in Scientology, and doesn't wish to have them discconnect, etc., it's wise to exercise caution when on the Net.
     
  16. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    I imagine many spy material types are former Sea Org who routed out standardly or were fitness boarded but remain in good standing, true believers and like to be connected to OSA so they are part of the power and intrigue that comes from ruining people's lives and they get to vicariously relive the glory days.

    The Guardian's Office was non-Sea Org and I think it is reasonable to expect that those people continued to provide services in non-Church capacities as lawyers, PIs and skip tracers. It could be a 2nd or 3rd generation business by now.

    But a true believer wouldn't need money - a fresh commendation in their ethics file for sniffing out dissent on Facebook or internet forums should suffice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-84UJpYFRM
     
  17. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    This is a really good point....how many of us accepted that Dianetics and auditing were very scientific, only because that's what Hubs claimed? I know I was disillusioned with "regular" religion because it was based on fear and superstition and myths. And then here comes this "scientific" self-help program based on logic and science. LOL! At least that's what our naive minds wanted to believe. Oh, to be young and idealistic, and perfectly gullible to falling for Hubs BS.

    It said right on the cover of DMSMH "the Modern SCIENCE of Mental Health". And not a shred of science to back up his claims for Clear or OT. Just tons of Hope, Hype, and Hoopla.
     
  18. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Yep. I got into scientology after reading DMSMH because it was "proven scientifically". I even had 50 hours of Dianetics auditing and got nothing from it but I kept going because it was "scientifically proven".:duh:
     
  19. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    And thank you so much for that message. It's easy to forget that so many people read quietly and are affected by the stories and discussions here and it's good to have feedback.

    :welcome:
     
  20. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Hi FormerScn, Welcome!

    :)

    Myself....27 years in and 16 years out....
     

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