Hubbard on sex with little boys

Discussion in 'L Ron Hubbard' started by Veda, Apr 2, 2018.

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  1. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    oh gawd, more bullshit from you Terril.

    Got any docs other than your word or certificates. Who are the many?

    And I don't want to hear or read "success stories".

  2. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    fooled again by Hubbard. Theta comm lines means actually only except Hubbard words, entheta comm lines actually mean no critical thinking allowed and no actual truthful evaluation of the supposed called state of clear and then OT, for if you said no clear or no OT, why that's entheta comm line. And after careful research why one finds out no clears or OT's are to had, never have been, never will. Now, if you are still in Hubbard's persuasion, why you'd say I am an SP for stating what I just wrote, don't you see?

    Remember, I was once involved heavy.
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  3. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    "Has anyone actually read the entire PR Series?"

    yah, I have. Has anyone actually read about classic rhetoric of ethos, pathos and ethos?

    The PR series is rhetoric in that sense and not the glib definition found online google search of the word rhetoric. PR and marketing are derived from classical rhetoric, but refined you might say.

    But, Hubbard used bad classical rhetoric in the sense that he never created a clear or OT, but he kept trying.

    In the end he only told one person, Sarge, that he failed. What an asshole, Hubbard, to not issue a Policy letter stating he failed, everybody go home, scientology does not work.
  4. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    don't do that, Gib
    The Brainwashing book maybe doesn't have Hubbard on it, but it has Hubbard IN it.
    Can you, after reading many many Hubbard writings , actually believe that Hubbard did not write it??!
  5. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Anyways, I don't believe that Hubbard diddled little boys.
    From what I know, he was quite busy diddling females by the dozen.
  6. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased I say...I go back and forth on it. Mainly because it is so fantastic, so incredible, so outlandish as to escape rational thought so I find myself rejecting it.

    But what's interesting is that she was a Marjory Cameron...Parson's "Scarlet Woman"...the chosen one to bear the anti-Christ.

    Hubbard was a delinquent psycho.
  7. Jim Dandy

    Jim Dandy Patron with Honors

    Speaking of child sex....or <ahem> "underage sex workers" and "teenage/child prostitutes" as someone calls it...the world of both adult and child sex trafficking took a major blow yesterday with the FBI's seizure of none other than...!

    This was a long time coming. Took many years of effort to finally shit this down. In the meantime it made a LOT of money for <ahem> certain publications, which is why beneficiaries of said publications fought so hard for and denied the horrors caused by

  8. F.Bullbait

    F.Bullbait Oh, a wise guy,eh?

    I found the Ann Bailey affidavit:

    I haven't read the whole thing as of yet. Very busy time for me.

    Good point about the Scarlet Woman. Was he trying to resurrect that old 1940's magick?
  9. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    well, Koot, you are spouting l ron hubbard to explain l ron hubbard. Doncha see the brainwashed mind there? Please get outside that bubble.
    It is so annoying on this board of ex's. here are FZ boards where you will get total agreement on your views of the tech and of hisself. I. too, have studied the PR series, and interned on it on the Flagship. You don't realize who you are talking to on this MB.
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  10. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    What was the context of that passage he pointed out?
  11. Jim Dandy

    Jim Dandy Patron with Honors

    Well George that is like asking what the context of the entire book of Dianetics is. Are you a never-in?

    It's about engrams, reactive mind, restimulating engrams both from this lifetime and prior life times, etc... You know, garden variety horseshit.

    Regarding the young girl passage, the context was a restimuation from a past life experience, or experiences. Creepy? Well of course it is. The whole damn book is creepy.
  12. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Were you aware of any of those females to have been underage?
  13. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Personally I find the young girl passage pretty disturbing. :omg:

    He could have used many other examples to illustrate the point he was trying to make. Yet he chose that one. And to me it was a bad example even if there was no creepy aspect to it. There certainly could have been other reasons ( other than engrams) that caused the girl to see something wrong with the kiss.

    Her parents may have informed her about pedophiles for one thing, educating her on what type of behavior was wrong. :faceslap:

    While the passage isn't an endorsement of pedophilia, I do see it (and some other of Hubbard's writings) as indicative of some personal issues he had. Of course that is all speculative without any strong evidence.
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  14. phenomanon

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  15. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    Coming at this from another angle, IMO, EXs will agree that if a Cult Member was found to be sexually molesting another....even if underage or even a young child....that person would not be reported to the Police or any Authorities......
  16. Jim Dandy

    Jim Dandy Patron with Honors

    Yes Hubbard was a creep and often his creepiness would come through his pen and his mouth. Like I said Dianetics is a creepy book.
  17. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    He's talking about the First Axiom being a benefit to the auditor because it can be used to establish whether or not a rational reaction is being confronted. He is saying the seven-year-old girl's reaction is not rational, that she should rationally find nothing with being kissed by a man even if it is a passionate kiss. He is saying that instead the reaction the girl has, a shudder, is caused by an engram, possibly prenatal.
    Now, with all the light that has been shed on hubbard and Dianetics, the literal context needs to be set aside and the question asked, "why did he write that particular passage when giving an example of the benefit of the First Axiom to the auditor?"
    All of the stories about PC's and auditors came out of his imagination. There were no auditors before he discovered Dianetics and yet he writes about all these auditor/PC examples. Knowing it is fiction the understanding gained from the book is going to be those windows hubbard opened up to look into what was going on in his mind.
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  18. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    I distinctly remember listening to a tape where Hubbard talks about a PC shagging her dog and how the w/h was missed when a man told her 'You like dogs don't you?'

    What are we to make of that?
  19. F.Bullbait

    F.Bullbait Oh, a wise guy,eh?

    Didn't Axioms come significantly after the publication of DMSMH?
  20. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    This is a true fact.
    It would be "written up" and sent "uplines".
    If divulged in session, it would be written up in quadruple and copies left in the PCs folder.