I think my favourite song sums up Scientology.....

[Dirty Den Watts]

This may be a bit of a point less thread, and not sure if is in the right section. But I was listening to my favourite song from the 80's the other night for the first time in ages, and couldn't help think how word for word it could easily have been written by an ex- scientologist, in retaliation to the church. Here are the lyrics and I have also left the link to the song on You Tube, where I lifted the lyrics from in the video descriotion. The song is called Sold Me Out... would love your opinions

(By the way, if I was a member in sea or, or some thing, would I be allowed to listen to this stuff?)



I always knew that they'd get me somehow sooner or later,
But with a bullet in the head, a knife in the back,
And not a pocket calculator
Sorry mister, you're all wiped up,
You're all washed up,
Sold you out

Got no dream, got no ambition,
Can't decide, 'cause there's no decision,
Got no claim to any position,
Can't compete with the competition
You're always complaining,
It's so depressing,
But if you're old enough,
Start to confess it
You say, you sold me out,
To get a better deal for yourself,
You sold me out,
And now we want some of your precious wealth,

Because you sold me out
Sold me out,
Sold me out,
Sold me out

You sold me out,
To get a better deal for yourself.
You sold me out,
And now it's every man for himself

Work all your life, put the money in the bank,
Sign on the dotted line
Try to draw it out, the joke's on you,
Put up the empty sign
Sorry mister, we're all sold out

Sold me out,
Sold me out,
Sold me out,
Sold me out

You, I'm talkin' to you

You sold me out,
To get a better deal for yourself
You sold me out,
And now we want some of your precious wealth

And sell you out,
Like you sold me out
Are you in so deep, that you can't get out?

Got no dreams, got no ambition,
Can't decide, 'cause there's no decision,
Got no claim to any position,
Can't compete with the competition.
Sold me out,
Sold me out,
Sold me out,
Sold me out

 

[Little David]

Dave Davies (Ray Davies Dave's brother wrote the above song) of the Kinks is sometimes included in articles mentioning Scientologists:

"But if you throw in Fox News anchor Greta Van Susteren, Travolta’s wife, Kelly Preston, jazz musician Chick Corea, Kinks guitarist Dave Davies, Priscilla and Lisa Marie Presley, Nancy Cartwright (the voice of Bart Simpson) and the late Sonny Bono?

All of the above are among the more public faces of Scientology, a religion with modern origins in the lectures and writings of L. Ron Hubbard, who began public life as a writer of pulp and science fiction."

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/...-religion-that-is-gaining-worldwide-attention

 

[Dirty Den Watts]

Oh man , please tell me it ain't so... I am so gutted Dave Davies got caught up in that shit


Well at least the main guy, Ray Davies, ain't a Scientologist... if his songs are any thing to go by, I wouldn't imagine so

I hope Dave gets to his senses


Any how, do you think those lyrics fit?

 

[tesseract]

[Pet Shop Boys - Integral (album version)]​

 

[Little David]

Oh man , please tell me it ain't so... I am so gutted Dave Davies got caught up in that shit


Well at least the main guy, Ray Davies, ain't a Scientologist... if his songs are any thing to go by, I wouldn't imagine so

I hope Dave gets to his senses


Any how, do you think those lyrics fit?

Yes, I think the lyrics fit. It's possible the song is Ray's "fuck you" to a former friend who tried to get them into Scientology. This is alleged to be Dave's response to "are you a Scientologist?


"Dave Davies, lead guitarist of the Kinks, is often listed as Scientologist. According to this 2011 interview (link doesn't work):

Question: Are you a Scientologist?
Davies: Oh no, no, no, no.
Question: In your defense, I think it is good, on the record, to have you say no, you are not one, since I have seen your name on lists of celebrity Scientologists.
Davies: Absolutely not. I don’t believe in Scientology. Hubbard maybe had some really cool ideas in the beginning and like, you know, it’s just another science fiction story, isn’t it?"

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/GeneralError/scientology_music/

 

[Dirty Den Watts]

Well that is kind of a relief, if it is true that Dave Davies said that


Another song by The Kinks is one called Brain washed (also written by Ray Davies).... could be about a Scientologist or any one in a cult (okay, apart from the stuff about aristocrats and bureaucrats, social security... etc)

You look like a real human being
But you don't have a mind of your own
Yeah, you can talk, you can breathe
You can work, you can stitch, you can sew
But you're brainwashed
Yes you are, yes you are
Get down on your knees

You've got a job and a house
And a wife, and your kids and a car
Yeah, you're conditioned to be
What they want you to be
And be happy to be where you are
Yes you are
Get down on your knees
Get down on your knees

The aristocrats and bureaucrats
Are dirty rats
For making you what you are
They're up there and you're down here
You're on the ground and they're up with the stars
All your life they've kicked you around and pushed you around
Till you can't take any more
To them you're just a speck of dirt
But you don't want to get up off the floor
Mister you're just brainwashed

They give you social security
Tax saving benefits that grow at maturity
Yeah, you're contented to be
What they want you to be
And to do what they want you to
Yes you are, yes you are
Get down on your knees

 

[Dirty Den Watts]

I have just had it kind of confirmed by a die hard fan who knows his son that Dave Davies is definitely not a Scientologist and said that religion doesn't seem to fit Dave

Dave Davies is in to other crap though, like the occult, U F O's, and some Eastern spiritual Philosophies

The Scientology thing would have really disappointed me though

 

[Dirty Den Watts]

My father told me today that Dave Davies is a member of the Atherian Society

Their philosophy is as wacky as the Scientologists

It's based on U F O's and eastern religions... sounds simple, but reading up on it , I wonder if they have the same strict rules as Scientology

 

[programmer_guy]

As I look back on those old times oh so long ago
I'm glad I left when I once did to return to what I know

My college re-accepted me to continue my degree
I thanked the Dean for what she said, it meant so much to me

I did not tell them what I planned and I would just then blow
I returned once more for one last time to tell the org EO

But there were four staffers there and not just that EO
They were puzzled then and asked me why I had decided I would go

I could not pay for auditing and that was what I said
I knew this truth would ring within each of those staffers' head

The staff I knew were real good friends but I had to say goodbye
I could see that they were stuck on staff and had to just comply

My future was much better now without the poverty
I could make my choices better now and I could just be me

However I still thought one day I'd be back for auditing
I put this off for many years, so much was happening

The years rolled by and there would come the worldwide internet
So I ditched my notions of The Bridge as promises not met

Some indies now still love the tech with nothing else to do
These pseudo-science followers may never see what's true

There are some crumbs in that tech that some may find right-on
But don't get trapped in this mindset when you should just move on

 

[Demented Hubbatd]

One of my favorite songs is Backside of the Moon. It has the following lines:

There is a lunatic in my head
But he is not me.

I think these lines describe Scientology better than anything else.

I spent 4 months in Sea Org. My voluntarily imprisonment was short, so I do not know all Sea Org rules. I know that Hubbard sharply criticized rock-n- roll music, but I don't know if he didn't allow Sea Org members to listen to it.

 

[Dirty Den Watts]

When I was a member of the Pentecostal church some 15 years back, me and other members were forbidden to listen to any secular music at all, we were only allowed the listen to Christian music or Christian rock....or rather advised to, but some times really rebuked when not doing that

We wasn't ordered to as such... but were often hounded about it, and the place I stayed in, the guy tried to chuck my secular C D's away by going in my bag

My church was not like Scientology though, and never kept members prisoner and we were free to come and go as we pleased


I saw a video filmed in Clear water where a Scientology guard blared out a Rolling Stones song on a ghetto blaster when protesters were there

 

[Enthetan]

My current attitude towards Scn:

Well you can tell everyone I'm a down disgrace
Drag my name all over the place
I don't care anymore
You can tell everybody 'bout the state I'm in
You won't catch me crying 'cause I just can't win
I don't care anymore, I don't care anymore
I don't care what you say
I don't play the same games you play
'Cause I've been talking to the people that you call your friends
And it seems to me there's a means to and end
They don't care anymore
And as for me I can sit here and bide my time
I got nothing to lose if I speak my mind
I don't care anymore, I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
We never played by the same rules anyway
I won't be there anymore
Get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore, I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore, I don't care anymore
Well, I don't care now what you say
'Cause every day I'm feeling fine with myself
And I don't care now what you say
Hey, I'll do alright by myself
'Cause I know
'Cause I remember all the times I tried so hard
And you laughed in my face 'cause you held all the cards
I don't care anymore
And I really ain't bothered what you think of me
'Cause all I want of you is just a let me be
I don't care anymore, d'you hear? I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
I never did believe you much anyway
I won't be there no more
So get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore
D'you hear? I don't care anymore
I don't care no more
You listening? I don't care no more
No more!
You know I don't care anymore!
Don't care no more! No more, no more, no more
Don't care, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more
No more, no more, no more, no more, no more, no more
Songwriters: Phil Collins

 

[strativarius]

My current attitude towards Scn:

(As a bonus you get Stratty on piano.)

 

[JackStraw]

I have several, but this may be my havo(u)rite:

Jack