Alanzo
Bardo Tulpa
It is "Vinaire" with one "n".
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Like a Corvaire, except with a "Vin" instead of a "Corv".
Alonso
Knowing How to Know vs. Believing
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Like a Corvaire, except with a "Vin" instead of a "Corv".
Alonso
Veda
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Hubbard's 1938 'Excalibur' letter serves as the de facto 'Mission Statement' of Scientology (Hubbard's Scientology that is), and it's not in the least airy or spiritual.
"Living is a pretty grim joke, but a joke just the same. The entire function of man is to survive. Not for 'what' but just to survive... I turned the thing up, so it's up to me to survive in a big way. Personal immortality is only to be gained through the printed word, barred note, or painted canvass or hard granite [titanium?]. Foolishly perhaps, but determined nonetheless, I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all the books are destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned. Things which stand too consistently in my way make me nervous. It's a pretty big job. In a hundred years Roosevelt will have been forgotten, which gives some idea of the magnitude of my attempt. And all this boils and froths inside my head."
Years later, Hubbard wrote that "PR is overt (visible), Intelligence (the serious part) is covert."
The 'Axioms' were always of interest to me, and I can remember spending a summer reading and rereading Hubbard's descriptions of them in the (now out of print) book, 'The Phoenix Lectures'. To me, it was a wonderful change of pace from other philosophical texts, books on Zen, "consciousness," Yoga, etc., that I had been reading previously.
At the time, being naive, I assumed this was the core of Scientology - its 'Axioms' - but I was naive.
It turned out that Hubbard was a "joker" (and a somewhat grim one at that) with a "hidden agenda," and that, indeed, "PR is overt" and "Intelligence is covert."
The "serious stuff" of Scientology (Hubbard's Scientology) is not the visible and promoted part.
P.S. And the "promoted part" includes the advertised "confidential upper levels."
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=32002&postcount=11
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=29401&postcount=8
"Living is a pretty grim joke, but a joke just the same. The entire function of man is to survive. Not for 'what' but just to survive... I turned the thing up, so it's up to me to survive in a big way. Personal immortality is only to be gained through the printed word, barred note, or painted canvass or hard granite [titanium?]. Foolishly perhaps, but determined nonetheless, I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all the books are destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned. Things which stand too consistently in my way make me nervous. It's a pretty big job. In a hundred years Roosevelt will have been forgotten, which gives some idea of the magnitude of my attempt. And all this boils and froths inside my head."
Years later, Hubbard wrote that "PR is overt (visible), Intelligence (the serious part) is covert."
The 'Axioms' were always of interest to me, and I can remember spending a summer reading and rereading Hubbard's descriptions of them in the (now out of print) book, 'The Phoenix Lectures'. To me, it was a wonderful change of pace from other philosophical texts, books on Zen, "consciousness," Yoga, etc., that I had been reading previously.
At the time, being naive, I assumed this was the core of Scientology - its 'Axioms' - but I was naive.
It turned out that Hubbard was a "joker" (and a somewhat grim one at that) with a "hidden agenda," and that, indeed, "PR is overt" and "Intelligence is covert."
The "serious stuff" of Scientology (Hubbard's Scientology) is not the visible and promoted part.
P.S. And the "promoted part" includes the advertised "confidential upper levels."
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=32002&postcount=11
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=29401&postcount=8
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Vinaire
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For a nobody (static) you sure do appear to be somebody who's mouth keeps running on perpetual motion.Seems Hubbard's stuff's has gotten you a bit fucked up on that one.
Now that is what I call a personal attack full of bile.
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Vinaire
Sponsor
If its not bile then it is ignorance. Sad but true.
This guy has no idea of the truth. He is simply stuck with Hubbard.
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Alan
Gold Meritorious Patron
How would such a being set up the perfect program?
The first thing to establish is to create oneself as a hidden source of everything and everyone. (To do that would require the subtle denial of everyone and everything.)
Obviously the source point would be that which everything and everyone is based on.
Axiom 1.
First change the formless unsubstantial substance of the pure essence of Spirit to Theta - a subtle shift - but a repositioning shift.
The second step would be to exclude everything and everyone.
Simple "It" has no mass, no location, no space, no time.
Where-as the opposite is true - it can create and include all mass, (things) all locations, all space, all time and all energy.
The rest of the Axioms contain a lot of alignments and truth.
When you can grasp the all-ness potential of the formless unsubstantial substance of the pure essence of Spirit - the resultant expansion of what is possible goes beyond incredible.
Alan
beyond_horizons
Patron Meritorious
Sounds like a projection to me. You're the one with over 1900 posts here.
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beyond_horizons
Patron Meritorious
If one were to demo hubbo's "Axiom 1" as it were intended it would look something like this;
At best the guy had a massive MU as to the nature of 'static'!
That's axiomatic.
Terril park
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Be able to experience anything.
Only create those effects others can have easily.
Gets me through the day.....
Me too. Is OT ability but there are gradients of application.
Terril park
Sponsor
Since time immemorial, people have been transferring skills from one generation to another in some form of apprenticeship.
Four thousand years ago, the Babylonian Code of Hammurabi provided that artisans teach their crafts to youth. The records of Egypt, Greece, and Rome from earliest times reveal that skills were still being passed on in this fashion.
When youth in olden days achieved the status of craft workers, they became important members of society. Their prestige in England centuries ago is reflected in a dialog from the Red Book of Hergest, a 14th-century Welsh Bardic manuscript:
“Open the door! “I will not open it. “Wherefore not? “The knife is in the meat, and the drink is in the horn, and there is revelry in Arthur’s Hall; and none may enter therein but the son of a King of a privileged country, or a craftsman bringing his craft.”
The status given the craft worker was well placed. As we all know, many countries no longer have kings but still have craft workers.
A little history of apprenticeships!
Alan
Beautiful history lesson.
Hammurabi also gave the rule of law as opposed to the rule of man.
Terril park
Sponsor
Possibly!
But - it is this inability to attain the consistent State of KNOW in the fullest extent that has destroyed Scientology.
Almost all areas except the most limited areas on each of us is buried in continuous chronic conditions of Mass, Force, Blankness, Confusion, Stupidity, Invisibleness, and Denial. (Not-Is.)
How does one take each key area up the Scale to KNOW?
The point Scio crashed is in June 1964 - that is the point LRH banned any other viewpoint than his.
He pretended to know. He pretended to be the only source of the Technology.
That false State led to an unworkable Technology that deteriorated the whole subject to the insane mess it is in right now.
Up to that time we (the advanced research processors and execs) were all engaged in finding the unknowns and running a rising scale procedure until we reached a state of know in the fullest extent.
Not just some head significance - but a PT Life demonstration of pure whole Knowledge in Action.
A PT Life demonstration of pure whole Knowledge in Action that telepathically caused amazing rising scale improvements regardless of any distance in many beings lives simultaniously.
Alan
You appear here to deny the great value and expansion of the mission Network that occurred later.
Alan
Gold Meritorious Patron
Great value?
The long term results do not show great value to very many people.
We promised "freedom" and "restored determinism" - instead, we delivered people into the most insidious trap imaginable.
I built my Missions on the promises of what the future of new discoveries in Scio held - none appeared - just rehashes of old material.
The "Mission Network" turned into a "bait and switch" trap. A naive bunch of fools.
Strange how some of greatest masters of the Technology for individual growth could be tricked into supporting the most hideous bunch of bureaucratic organizational leeches designed to entrap so many.
The purpose for a Scio Organization is: To create a safe space so that that auditing and training could occur.
But instead we had layers of Organizations that monitored layers of Organization so that LRH could maintain control and domination whilst he stayed in hiding.....each time he ran away.......a new layer of Organization was built to solve his control and domination of the area he blew from.
Alan
Bea Kiddo
Crusader
beyond_horizons
Patron Meritorious
You're tugging on the old heart strings ... ya are.
Div6
Crusader
Igor Stravinsky
Plant\Page
Elton John\Bernie Taupin
Mick Jagger\Keith Richards
Paul Simon
Pete Townsend\Roger Daltry
The Pre-Ford buyout Jaguar company
Rolls Royce
Barbera Streisand
Gilbert and Sullivan
The Beatles
etc...
Notable absentees:
Bob Moog (R.I.P.)
Nikola Tesla
Frank Zappa
Diego Maradona (?!)
Catherine Destivelle
David Lynch
etc....
Oh, and not forgetting, Alanzo the Magnificent.
Bea Kiddo
Crusader
See? Proof you are a slave. By your own admission.
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