One of the things that keeps people in Scn (either in or out of the church) is that it's an encyclopedic word system, a virtual labryinth of definitions and cross-definitions, all supporting each other to create a "self-proving" world in itself (with occasional connection to the real world). The mind does not easily discard years of that kind of accumulated information. Perhaps what is needed is a similarly complex system to engage the mind? I found that in the mid 80s with personal computers and DOS. Today, Linux is even more comparable in depth and complexity to Scn. What other mental "universes" might one explore in order to let go of Hubbard's complex mental creation? Maybe higher math? Maybe World of Warcraft?