Mockingbird's Nest

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  1. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

    I won't say this is a great site .But there is no other section for sites so...I will post this here.
    I am occasionally going to post links to new posts at my blog .

    First the new post Money Hungry Scientologists.
    Then OT VIII Delusion Fulfilled
    Then Scientology's Dirtbag Lawyers
    Then Bottled Up Dissonance Expressed Through Projection
    Then Putting Scientology in Perspective
    Then Hubbard's Legacy of Doublethink
    Then the Dilemma of the False Self
    Then My Endless Fascination and Wonder

    I will add more from time to time and welcome polite comments .I certainly have far more to learn than I know about the subjects I write on but will try to explore where to even look to find a measure of relief from and understanding of Scientology. Some see everything I write on as old news .Okay , you do not have to read my work. Some simply dislike me . Okay , same offer .

    If anyone wants to be courteous I will attempt to return that in turn . I am not interested in exchanging personal insults .I am interested in exposing Scientology and exchanging ideas on it .

    I do not want this to come off as domineering or confrontational but I frankly have had my fill of unwarranted attacks and snarky remarks that derail threads and discourage reason.

    You can decide individually how to proceed .
  2. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    I like your Nest MB and appreciate the work you do to unravel the mind fuck of Scientology.

    You help me a lot!


    Thank you

  3. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

    Thank you Knows , without the encouragement , information, feedback and exchange of ideas from so many people writing online wouldn't be rewarding or enjoyable at all.

    The vast majority of people and interactions I have experienced have been positive. I cannot stress that enough. There are far more polite , considerate , intelligent, well informed, compassionate and kind people who have communicated online with me at ESMB than the small tiny minority who have chosen to act otherwise.

    I far more want to encourage positive behavior than to even acknowledge the negative. But in fairness I want to disinvite anybody who feels a strong entitlement to be insulting , condescending, misrepresent my statements, thoughts ,emotions or beliefs .It is rare , quite rare but does happen.
    For the small few they are free to insult or state whatever they choose and I am free to pursue other conversations .
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2015
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  5. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    I don't write to you or acknowledge your work quite enough. I really can't stress how beneficial it has been for me.

    I innately knew that my remedy to help heal the trauma I experienced from Scientology was to get information and educate myself on how I got so duped. How I did so much financial damage to myself by spending all that money. How they destroyed families and cause so much death and destruction so very carefully masked and out of view.

    You also see the same thing and you share your work. I so appreciate that.

    I am still in the cynical phase - the J & D phase. I don't know why I am in that phase still - but I was really suppressed by "ex Scientologist's" when I left the building and have to recover from that too. That was really painful - a fully indoctrinated ex scientologist cutting me off, acting like it is weird to be "angry" cuz we were all duped out of years, money, family, friends etc...and shutting me down. THAT is part of the mind fuck from Scientology - how members are indoctrinated to NOT IS the experience or fight to be right about the "tech".

    Thanks again MB - I do so appreciate you!
  6. beltway

    beltway Bone Idle

    As per the Lovecraft portrait and quote on your site:

    "The process of delving into the black abyss is to me the keenest form of fascination"

    Preach it, H.P.!

    Delve on, MB!
  7. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Emphasis mine.

    I'm sorry to hear that, but scientologists have a tendency to treat each other as if they are all in group therapy together ... they give each other lots of "acks" and appear to give each other full attention ("TRs") no matter how bored they really are and blithely accept some pretty weird concepts without flinching as per the "TR's" training they received.

    Normal people don't do that.


    Exes are often trying to rediscover their own true essence ... you may have run in to some exes who were just not into what you were talking about at the time and chose not to act like scientologists?

    Even though ESMB isn't meant to be any kind of therapy board, overall I believe it manages to provide support for most people that come here but not in the same way scientologists "support" each other, which is usually demonstrated via cultic indoctrination, often without any genuine caring at all.

    I doubt many of us want ESMB to become culty or an extension of the cofs (I certainly don't) so seeing people respond more normally to each other makes me happy even if (sometimes) it seems a bit harsh.

    Perhaps we all have to toughen up a little bit when we leave because normal people don't know (or give a toss) about our previous upsets and exes are usually trying to normalise themselves and deal with their own.

    Overall I think we all do a pretty good job here while walking a fairly tricky line, most have the occasional upset with others but seem to come back stronger for it, very few choose to hang around and whine incessantly about ESMB (and I'm not suggesting that's what you are doing at all) because if it really isn't working for them and they don't feel they are being "acknowledged" or "appreciated" enough, they seem to sod off elsewhere fairly quickly, presumably where they feel more comfortable.

  8. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

  9. Northern Shewolf

    Northern Shewolf Patron Meritorious

    Just thought someone had to tell the truth:
    Dear Mockingbird you are a very important, and poignant, voice on this forum.
    Thanks for all you posts, even the stuff (here I confess :biggrin:) I take no interest in, all of what you post is quite revealing and enlightening (the stuff that i like always well plumbed). Keep singing Mockingbird and let's see in who's nest you left an egg....:eyeroll:
  10. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

    In honor of the historic Toronto conference I put up TEN new posts at my blog !
    And more are on the way !

    Stats affluence highest ever !
    Sleep ? Never heard of it !
    Why so many semicolons in Science of Survival ?
    Sunk Cost - crushing gravity of Scientology
    Questions about Scientology part 1
    No guru or enlightenment here
    How to keep Scientologists away in person !
    Ron Hubbard's narcissistic traits
    Dr. Robert J. Lifton's Criteria for Thought Reform
    OT VIII Delusion Fulfilled part 2
    Good Cult Victims and Evil Cult Villains
    Scientology and Margaret Singer's Six Conditions for Thought Reform
  11. BeenLiedTo

    BeenLiedTo Patron

    I just want to say thank you Mockingbird for all that you post. I have been going through a lot lately with PTSD from all that I suffered in the SO and the rest of the years just "in".....nightmares, panic attacks, and just plain freaking out, and some things that you post help me. I want to find a support group near me so that I can have an outlet to talk. My significant other helps me all that they can, but they don't understand the big picture as they have never been involved with Scientology or any other cult for that matter. I am out, but what happened to me lingers. I was a child in slave labor. I just want to heal.......Thank you again.

  12. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous


    Many of us had gone through a PTSD because of their yearsw in SO.

    I am very sorry you had been a SO slave labour child. :no:
    That shouldn't have happened and you, as a child, shall have been protected. I wish you are now surrounded with people who loves you and take care.

    Nightmares, panic attacks, sens of being in a different disconnected can all be usually handled with a specific PTSD cognitive behavioral therapy. Several here have gone through this specific therapy to adress PTSD and had great success and relief to go back to normal life, emotions and social behavior.

    Psychologists are usually the professionals who can deliver it.
    Unfortunately, reading can help one to learn and understand a lot of what's happening but usually it doesn't heal trauma.

    Si if you just want to heal, there is solution, it's fun to do, no psych meds, no brainswashing, no indication, no mind manipulation...only assistance for one to recover his true self and to be free of fear. It can take 6 to 12 months once a week!

    They can provide you with an evaluation of results you can expect and time of the therapy. Ensure you deal with a certified professional in PTSD therapy.

    You can heal - Good luck!
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2015
  13. SPsince83

    SPsince83 Gold Meritorious Patron

    Glad you made it. Stick around. There are lots of resources and great people here. Take your time decompressing. Mockingbird's stuff is helpful. Poke around.:biggrin:
  14. Gizmo

    Gizmo Rabble Rouser

    You, like so many of us, are heading towards full recovery. It didn't all happen at once & it takes some time to peep that onion of 'what happened'.

    I can only speak for me, but, what I have found most useful for me is to look at good things now, good things coming & keep my attention of the good.

    I can that ' giving air time to the good' & when I manage to do that I find the 'stuff' of the past has no room in my mind today.

    Laugh, love, enjoy what is in front of you !
  15. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    What he said ^

    If you can put your focus on things that make you feel good, you'll find it easier and easier to do just that.

    Figure out what makes you happy, and concentrate on that.

    But don't ignore the advice to get some counseling, if you really need it, and if it helps, and alas, if you can afford it.

    Talking to a "real life" friend is worth a bunch, if you've got one.

    Best wishes!
  16. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

  17. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

    Today I am posting an entirely original medium length post that addresses the issue Marty Rathbun brought up in Going Clear regarding realizing as a part of cult recovery that the ex cultist committed harmful or evil acts while in the cult .

    This goes into pretty strong detail and references many sources and books and videos for study on this very tough and personal issue .

    The Thousand Deaths .
  18. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

    I have gone through the first 100 or so posts here and have gone through and made lists of the topics they cover . Some have some degree of overlap like hypnotism and persuasion posts .But hopefully the lists are more helpful than nothing .

    I have the posts listed with their month as they can be accessed by month .
    Persuasion posts

    The secret of Scientology part 2 : the Adamantium wall January 2015

    [h=3]A brief rhetorical analysis of Keeping Scientology Working series 1 : KSW Keeping Slaves Willing January 2015[/h][h=3]The secret of Scientology part 3 : why are Scientologists so stubbornly obstinate ? January 2015[/h][h=3]ARC and KRC February 2015[/h][h=3]Why Hubbard never claimed OT feats and the rock bottom basis of Scientology February 2015[/h][h=3]The Clear Contradiction February 2015 [/h]

    [h=3]Gibs great find - rhetoric March 2015[/h]

    March 2015

    [h=3]Rhetoric in Scientology- a few brief examples March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Ad Hominem :Fallacy File # 1 March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scientology 180 degrees from the truth May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]OT VIII Delusion Fulfilled May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Why so many semicolons in Science of Survival ? June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Sunk Cost - crushing gravity of Scientology June 2015[/h]

    [h=1]Dr. Robert J. Lifton's Criteria for Thought Reform June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]OT VIII delusion fulfilled part 2 June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scientology and Margaret Singer's Six Conditions for Thought Reform[/h]
    June 2015

    [h=3]Why We follow Decisive Leaders June 2015[/h]

    Plagiaristic resources in Scientology

    [h=3]OT III and beyond sources plagiarized from parts 1 , 2 and 3[/h][h=3]March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Hubbard and Hitler March 2015[/h]

    The Minds and Conduct of Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige

    [h=3]David Micavige Murderer February 2015[/h]

    [h=3]A psychiatric view with comments on the Admissions by Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (1947) April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scientology's parallel in nature - malignant narcissism May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]The Dilemma Of The False Self May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Miscavige and Hubbard : Contrasting Evils June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Ron Hubbard's narcissistic traits June 2015[/h]

    Recovery posts

    [h=3]Recognizing and recovering from narcissists , sociopaths , and psychopaths February 2015[/h]

    [h=3]On exes letting go at differing rates February 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Heaven From Hell March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Recovery Beginnings March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Freeing the Mind to Doubt March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]I Am Wrong And You Can Be Too !!! March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]The call for compassion April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Avoiding Piling On April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Honesty Without Compassion April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Big Words...And Stuff May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Putting Scientology in Perspective May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Boundaries , Bashing and Disorders June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]the Thousand Deaths June 2015[/h]

    Comedy posts


    [h=3][/h][h=3]New " On The Down Low " Rundown Released for all gay Scientologists !!! April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]David Miscavige pioneering elder care in the Scientology tradition May 2015[/h]

    General Scientology posts

    [h=3]Taking on a Giant January 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Operation Endgame January 2015[/h]

    [h=3]The Empty Well February 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Exteriorization Versus Dissociation March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]'s Great Finds Regarding Scientology March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scholars on Scientology March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Ot VIII Anti Christ version March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Cult Responds to Going Clear with online ads March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Revisiting the C word April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Cult of Scientology malfeasance! April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]The Day The Cult Died !!!! April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Marty's Excalibur April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Mark 'Marty' Rathbun: Scientology Beliefs April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Why Revoke Scientology's Tax Exempt Status - the real issue April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Money Hungry Scientologists May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scientology's Dirtbag Lawyers May 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Implausible Denial June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]An Open Letter to Leah Remini June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Scientologists equating Scientology to Jews and critics to Nazis June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Questions about Scientology part 1 June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Good Cult Victims and Evil Cult Villains June 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Having Your Own Ideas In Scientology July 2015[/h]

    Loaded language

    [h=3]Propaganda by Reversal of Meaning in Scientology March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Re: What does "Workable" mean ? March 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Humbling Simplicity April 2015[/h]

    [h=3]Hubbard's Legacy of Double Think May 2015[/h]

  19. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron

  20. mockingbird

    mockingbird Silver Meritorious Patron