This is something I've assisted with before. My phone number
can you recommend one that works onHave you run out of Tippex/White out Terril?
Yes ... the same type you used to use on paper should do it.
A pathetic attempt to con us. You're going to have to do a lot better than that Terril. If you are so interested in helping people get out of scientology, why is it that you have the URL to the freakzone as your sig? The freakzone is nothing but scientology under another name, and everyone here knows you are still a hardcore believer in L. Ron Hubbard's bullshit as most of us were at one time but are no longer.
I'm not a hardcore believer. I'm pro scn with many
I'm opposed to scientology and I'll do my bit to try and prevent others making the same mistake I made by getting involved. I have suffered at the hands of scientology 'ethics' and 'justice' and I have seen the hurt and the damage this pernicious cult has done to others. I want to warn people about the dangers involvement will lead to. If that makes me an intolerant, small-minded bigot I'm quite happy to live with that, and besides, I'd rather be a bigot than a shill for a noxious money-making scam masquerading as a 'religion'.
I agree. Terril is a nice guy. I like him, too. He's really sweet, has a huge heart and sincerely likes to help people. He was one of the first people here who was friendly to me (as well as RogerB, Panda,and a few others. Later, HH and some of the Anons and really exy exes). Terril remained friends with me ever since, even though he knows I want nothing to do with Scientology and even though I usually disagree with him.
I have absolutely no problem with Terril believing in scientology, the moonies, alien space-invaders or anything else. What I do have a problem with is him using this ex scientologists bulletin board as a recruitment centre for the freakzone and proseletysing scientology to any unwary newbie who stumbles across this place. If it were my BB I wouldn't allow it.I agree. Terril is a nice guy. I like him, too. He's really sweet, has a huge heart and sincerely likes to help people. He was one of the first people here who was friendly to me (as well as RogerB, Panda,and a few others. Later, HH and some of the Anons and really exy exes). Terril remained friends with me ever since, even though he knows I want nothing to do with Scientology and even though I usually disagree with him.
That says a lot about Terril's character. (Others, too.) Gosh, he's a nice guy.
Terril isn't going to change his mind about scn, just like Commander Birdsong won't. They had their happy moments or wins over the years and decided to keep or apply what they like and toss out the rest. There's this sort of running tension line or disagreement where Terril and other FZers like him feel they have to keep repeating that they had wins and others keep writing back to warn others not to believe the hype and that Scn is a dangerous trap.
Some things never change.
Yeh, Scn is a dangerous trap, no doubt,and Terril will gladly promote it for the FZ, but he is truly one of the nicest people anyone could know, anyway. It's a conundrum, but people are complicated.
I take no issue with Terril or Birdsong believing whatever they believe and/or using Scientology in their lives if that's what they wish to do. And I do feel better about Terril after what you and ThetanExterior wrote above.I agree. Terril is a nice guy. I like him, too. He's really sweet, has a huge heart and sincerely likes to help people. He was one of the first people here who was friendly to me (as well as RogerB, Panda,and a few others. Later, HH and some of the Anons and really exy exes). Terril remained friends with me ever since, even though he knows I want nothing to do with Scientology and even though I usually disagree with him.
That says a lot about Terril's character. (Others, too.) Gosh, he's a nice guy.
Terril isn't going to change his mind about scn, just like Commander Birdsong won't. They had their happy moments or wins over the years and decided to keep or apply what they like and toss out the rest. There's this sort of running tension line or disagreement where Terril and other FZers like him feel they have to keep repeating that they had wins and others keep writing back to warn others not to believe the hype and that Scn is a dangerous trap.
Some things never change.
Yeh, Scn is a dangerous trap, no doubt,and Terril will gladly promote it for the FZ, but he is truly one of the nicest people anyone could know, anyway. It's a conundrum, but people are complicated.
Type4, I couldn't agree with you more.I take no issue with Terril or Birdsong believing whatever they believe and/or using Scientology in their lives if that's what they wish to do. And I do feel better about Terril after what you and ThetanExterior wrote above.
What I do take issue with is anyone coming onto a board for EX members with an apparent agenda to incessantly promote Scientology and/or recruit new people. (and both of those things have been done in the past at times)
I know that some have attempted to take what they believe to be the positive stuff from Scientology and remove out the evil crap that Hubbard embedded within it. But there's so much of Hubbard's basic "scriptures" one has to remove that I can't for the life of me understand why someone would want to still keep the "Scientology" brand name. That seems to violate some basic principles of intelligent marketing, utilizing a brand name which has been so associated with harming many people through disconnection, fraudulent marketing, and so many types of abusive and/or criminal practices. If one attempts to remove those harmful elements which were intentionally inserted by the author, why keep the same brand name?
IF someone insists on doing just that though, and then promotes Scientology, they have IMO a moral responsibility to clearly warn others about all the negative aspects of Scientology and to tell the truth about Hubbard, not the CoS version of his biography. Failure to do this could lead others right into the same trap that led many lives being ruined by financial devastation, destruction of their families by disconnection, or the lifelong pursuit of the Bridge to Nowhere, only to find out at the end that instead of Total Freedom it was Total Bullshit.
Utilizing an analogy of a mouse nibbling at a piece of some cheese he loved and he came to eventually understand the cheese was embedded within a trap that could have easily snapped his neck, if he later told his friends and family about how good that cheese was it would also be his moral responsibility to warn them about the trap.
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Anyone who contacts me re Scn I always tell them
Back when I was a Scientologist, had I read this (your words above I quoted) and it had been written by another member I'd of written a KR on you, quoting LRH, showing that you are at best a big PTS, and in need of a Severe Reality Adjustment.
Exactly right. I have no problem with someone liking and using some of Hubbard's "tech". That's their choice -- but I do want anyone messing with that "tech" to be fully informed as to the downsides, i.e.: It's part of a carefully engineered trap and none of Hubbard's promised gains have actually been verifiably produced.I take no issue with Terril or Birdsong believing whatever they believe and/or using Scientology in their lives if that's what they wish to do. And I do feel better about Terril after what you and ThetanExterior wrote above.
What I do take issue with is anyone coming onto a board for EX members with an apparent agenda to incessantly promote Scientology and/or recruit new people. (and both of those things have been done in the past at times)
I know that some have attempted to take what they believe to be the positive stuff from Scientology and remove out the evil crap that Hubbard embedded within it. But there's so much of Hubbard's basic "scriptures" one has to remove that I can't for the life of me understand why someone would want to still keep the "Scientology" brand name. That seems to violate some basic principles of intelligent marketing, utilizing a brand name which has been so associated with harming many people through disconnection, fraudulent marketing, and so many types of abusive and/or criminal practices. If one attempts to remove those harmful elements which were intentionally inserted by the author, why keep the same brand name?
IF someone insists on doing just that though, and then promotes Scientology, they have IMO a moral responsibility to clearly warn others about all the negative aspects of Scientology and to tell the truth about Hubbard, not the CoS version of his biography. Failure to do this could lead others right into the same trap that led many lives being ruined by financial devastation, destruction of their families by disconnection, or the lifelong pursuit of the Bridge to Nowhere, only to find out at the end that instead of Total Freedom it was Total Bullshit.
Utilizing an analogy of a mouse nibbling at a piece of some cheese he loved and he came to eventually understand the cheese was embedded within a trap that could have easily snapped his neck, if he later told his friends and family about how good that cheese was it would also be his moral responsibility to warn them about the trap.
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Very few people here give a flying fuck what Hubbard said Terril. You just don't get it do you? What the hell would he know about 'the highest of human virtues'? He was a bigamist, a con-man, a pathological liar, a narcissist, oh, the list goes on. But go on mate, get that tongue of yours right up into that butt hole of his why don't you?
But this highlights the most important thing about Hubbard. Often what he said was very high-sounding and "wise" ... after all, that was the image he worked very, very hard to create. But like my mother said, "To know a person, look at what they do, not what they say."
What do you say to all the people to whom putting their trust in this 'paragon of the highest human virtues' has brought financial ruin, emotional turmoil and familial disintegration?
Terril, I (and I suspect many others) long ago realised that nice as you undoubtedly are you are also either as thick as a brick, a sandwich or three short of a picnic, stubborn, completely lacking in sensitivity or a combination of all four ... there's a whole world full of people out there but you chose the recovering ex-scientology community to try and flog your wares. You use 'niceness/granting of beingness' to try and pull people who are at a very vulnerable point in their lives back down into the sticky web of hubbard madness that you seem to enjoy. You failed (in part) because you are a spectacularly bad salesman trying to sell a pointless and redundant product.
