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  1. sp declared

    sp declared Patron with Honors

    Even though I have been declared over 10 years ago, I still believe a lot in the tech. As I said in previous posts I became rich and successful thanks to my going to sessions and applying scientology basics. About 1 year ago I started a group to prepare some auditors and get a grade chart co-auditing going. We used RDD to train people (like they study in the Rpf - of course not all the “gulag added unapplicable”).

    It was quite a rundown, a lot of difficulties to overcome but today we produced our first auditor and the pc was blown out.

    Now, I know many people here (the majority) doesnt like the tech and it’s fine with me (respect). However this msg is for the others: if you want delivery to occur there is hope. We dont deliver to outside people, I just did it for a group of friends.

    Now, technically you’d call me a squirrel because I refuse to use any degrading material. What I am interested is in people feeling better about themselves and the tech helps in that sense. The tech is a workable solution.

    Bye Bye S.D.
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  2. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron

  3. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Would you consider that the (quasi hypnotic) "tell the person the contents of his mind (field of awareness)" parts of the tech are "degrading material"?

    What would you consider to be "degrading material"? and what would you consider to be positive material?
  4. sp declared

    sp declared Patron with Honors

    Hello Veda :)

    Long time no see. Hope you r doing great.

    Veda, really I dont understand the question. I dont know what is the “field of awareness”. Sorry

    Degrading material: everything that is not based on ARC (love) for the individual as a whole including his reactive mind, peculiar behaviours, etc.

    Arc generally solves and improves things
  5. This is NOT OK !!!!

    This is NOT OK !!!! Gold Meritorious Patron

    If the tech is so great, why are you trolling for prospects here?
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  6. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Thanks. Same to you.

    Not important.

    Do you recommend people do the full Grade Chart?
  7. sp declared

    sp declared Patron with Honors

    The only prospect I would be looking for would be you... for a medical marjuana program so maybe your nastiness goes away. It would be great for your family, if you have one

    But I think there is no hope. Sorry...
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  8. sp declared

    sp declared Patron with Honors

    Veda, I recommend nothing. Everyone has to find out for himself what works and what doesnt
  9. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Perhaps I'm confused here.

    You wrote that you "refuse to use any degrading material" so you must be recommending something and not recommending other things.

    Of course, none of this is really any of my business.

  10. George Layton

    George Layton Silver Meritorious Patron

    Now this guy here ^^^ is the kind of guy I'd want to save me from myself.
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  11. sp declared

    sp declared Patron with Honors

    Perhaps you are

    But confusion is good.

    Everyone has to find out for himself what works and what doesnt
  12. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    Hopefully you'll find out soon that hunting for fresh meat on an ex scio board isn't very clever and clearly demonstrates an absence of decency and good manners.
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  13. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    OK, from this it appears that you've abandoned the idea of attaining "OT" with Scientology tech, and have settled for subjective "feel better" type results.

    What have you and your associates found out?


    Which procedures, processes, actions, etc. work? from your (collective) experience?
  14. IWantOffThisTrain

    IWantOffThisTrain Eternal Optimist

    This post reminds me of those old self help infomercials you would see on late night tv. Usually a single guy with several cute girls lounging on his boat or by his pool trying to sell the viewer his "method" to attaining wealth so they too can be rich and successful like him. Little did the viewer know, the girls were hired, the house/boat rented, and the "method", well it was just a scam to get your cash.
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  15. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    You come here to the EX-Scientology Message Board, where people, on the whole, HATE Scientology; where many have been badly abused by Scientology; and you can't tolerate a rather mild negative comment?

    Is this an example of how Scientology makes you "more aware"?
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  16. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron

    Back in the day on ESMB "newbies" were treated gently for their first ten posts and this board was home to many who were displeased with the church yet well impressed with auditing.
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  17. Bill

    Bill Gold Meritorious Patron

    The "offending" comment was not that negative.
  18. I told you I was trouble

    I told you I was trouble Suspended animation

    They still are (treated gently) Birdie ... this rude and aggressive troll has been here since 2008 and made over 180 posts.
  19. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    I could get a better sense of things if I could see those posts from SP Declared, but all I can find are a list of six, and another list of eleven posts.

    I don't think SP Declared is a troll.

    He seems to want to assure readers/lurkers (in the Freezone, Independent, and other flavors of Scientology section) that it's still possible to do the "tech" outside the "Church."

    His statements are pretty vague and he still hasn't answered the few simple questions in my last post.

    It could be an interesting "tech" discussion.
  20. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    I would never act as a spokesman for an entire message board and don't think you should either.

    I don't HATE Scientology. HATE has a way of clouding a person's perception and judgement.

    Calmly, I see it for what it is.

    And I've expressed my opinion on what it is numerous times and won't bother repeating any of that here.