NEW Independent Scientology Podcast: Scientology Outside The Church

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    That specific HCO PL, and/or a link thereto, has been tweeted numerous times in reference to Mike Rinder's essay Dealing with Critics of Scientology – The L. Ron Hubbard Playbook.
  2. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    That's fine. :) (Was there a response by them? Didn't see it. Assumed the red underling was their response.)

    The added info is still useful, and is helpful is untangling the web of deceit spun by Hubbard.

    Kind of rushed right now. More later perhaps.
  3. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    No response by them. Just to make something clear, this is the Twitter bio of Independent Scientology News, which made the Tweet:

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    Independent news about Scientology. Not associated with the Church of Scientology or Independent Scientology. Tweets & RTs not endorsements, but simply news.

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  4. Veda

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    OK. Not rushed anymore. In my haste, I had, briefly, foolishly thought you had somehow achieved "two way comm" with Independent Scientology maven and PR person Mark Shreffler, or perhaps one of his associates.

    My bad.:blush:
  5. Dulloldfart

    Dulloldfart Squirrel Extraordinaire

    HCOB is a specific issue type, and is not a synonym for "issue".

    Documentation is only a proof of documents, if we're being picky. By that I mean there have been many HCOBs whose actual authorship is cloudy, to put it mildly.

    I was working in NOTs Tech Services at Saint Hill around 1980, and I remember (I think!) the grade charts that had NOTs as a level before "old" OT4-7, then with NOTs/Solo NOTs replacing "old" OT4-7. NOTs had lotsa HCOBs, of course. Was there ever any HCOB that even mentioned the, er, retirement of "old" OT4-7?

    None of the above is proof that Hubbard changed the grade chart. For that we have to rely on statements from defectors that Hubbard was in the driving seat at those times.

  6. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    I've seen a grade chart that has NOTs as a booster rundown
    for those having trouble doing original OT levels. It was in Pat
    and Ray Kreniks courseroom. NOTs was not then a bridge level.
  7. PeterPier

    PeterPier Patron

    Of course, that is well known. What is your point?
  8. PirateAndBum

    PirateAndBum Gold Meritorious Patron

    The Kool-Aid runs in Mark's veins.
  9. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Maybe there is something in the court case against David Mayo and the claim of who developed and owned NOTS.
  10. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    PODCAST: David LaCroix [@kd_lacroix] & Scientolipedia [@Scientolipedia] - If it's not fun, its not Scientology - Part One, by the Independent Scientology Advanced Organization of the Great Plains [@AOGreatPlains]

    * * * * * BEGIN INTRODUCTION * * * * *

    Scientology Outside of the Church presents “David Lacroix: If It's Not Fun, It's Not Scientology” Part One. In this segment, we cover his experiences in the church, his views on the Sea Org versus the Guardian's Office, and how the "fun" was taken out of the church. He also describes the inception and goals of Scientolopedia.


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    Last edited: Apr 26, 2017