Part 2 -How many people went Type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

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  1. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    These 'breaks' were occurring all along. DM is following L Ron Hubbard's 'tek'. DM did not write the 'tek' on how to handle psychotic breaks.
    One I remember from the mid-50s was when Bobby Sutton ( a graduate of the 3rd ++ clinical course) shot Buzzy Boone. Buzzy was a DJ in Phoenix and was a scn'ist. Bobby told me that he shot Buzzy "and laid in the engram" by standing over Buzzy and saying " you are going to die".
    Dm wasn't even born.
    LRH had a "black list". I can prove it by early letters in LRH's own hand referring to his "black list".
    It wasn't until early 1970 that LRH ran a 'pilot program' on the Apollo, wherein he isolated a number of Staff, and then wrote his "breakthrough" about how to 'cure' psychotics. Give the Devil his due. It is Hubbard who wrote this shit policy, and the "tek" to implement it. Not DM.
     
  2. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III in your org?

    You are too kind, Babygirl.
    Hubbard believed that he was Master of the Universe until, apparently, on his deathbed his 'life passes before him' and he realizes he is just a piece of Earth trash.
     
  3. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?


    I just wanted to bold this sentence. :)
     
  4. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    Re: How many people went type III in your org?

    Yes Phenom...

    Prior to fool millions of people..he fooled himself..but that was too late for regrets... :confused2:
    He got what he demanded to life!
     
  5. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    That is so very sad.

    I told a story here once about when I was doing reception at Saint Hill in 1968. A lady appeared at the door in a state of great distress, she could barely stand up. She told me her husband had just committed suicide and she didn't know what to do and she needed to see the GO. So I rang them and someone came to take her away. I didn't hear another word about it all and at the time presumed she was taken care of. I was so naive. :bigcry:
     
  6. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    Phenom,
    Thanks
    Al those precious records of you shall be all put on a thread for historica records. They are so rare (told as it was without any romance) and important.
    (before we all are gone an the official history record is revisited ...in a few decades)

    By the way, can you enlight me about the RPF???? (either share what you know about it)


    I've read recently that It was Hubbard who made a''pilot program'' on the Apollo to implant it
    (over the years several indies tried to make Hisself, not responsible for it...or wanting people rehabilitate themselve on it...rehabilitate of what ????)
    do you remember people waring a grey piece of tissue on the upper arm..like jews(in nazi germany) would wear stuff to show they don't deserve to be...)

    *music*
    (the love boat..la la lala la la la..the love boat...)

    Love to you
    Lotus
     
  7. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    I resigned in 1983. That was on the beginning edge of RTC's Reign.
    The first I knew of the RPF was about 1978 or so. That's when I noticed Staff working on the parking lot next door to Bridge. they were wearing grey rags on their sleeves. I spoke to someone I knew and she didn't answer, just looked at me funny. I asked someone about it and they said "O she's in the RPF. I had worked on renos at Big Blue earlier than that, but that the Staff there where I usually was....were RPF didn't register with me.
    "Blinded By The Light". LOL.
    It's pretty unreal that shit was happening in front of your face and you don't see it. The Left hand didn't know what the Right hand was doing.
    Happens to me a lot in the Grocery store. I can walk by an item 2 or 3 times and not even see it.
     
  8. Wilbur

    Wilbur Patron with Honors

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    I suspect she WAS "taken care of". Just not in the way that any of us would have imagined. I love the way that ESMB allows so many fragments of anecdotes to see the light. All of this information would have been lost otherwise.

    W.
     
  9. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    Re: Part 2 -How many people went Type III (ie. had a Psyhotic Break) in your org?

    Thanks Phenom for your input :wink2:

    I found this, written by professor Kent, University of Alberta (canada)
    (mostly found in Atack writings))

    I can't count the number of times some indies advocated that the RPF had nothing to do with Hubbard...or either if he knew he would have done something.....:duh:
     
  10. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    Thank you so much. This kind of evidence, along with the running NEWS reporting in " The Complete Aberree" publication running 1954 until 1965(?) points to the anti- social characteristics and actions of ron extant much earlier than the stated times of the Anderson report, the FDA raid and the introduction of implanted goals.
    So very helpful in understanding Scientology before DM was even born.
    Did you know Alphia or Agnes Hart?
     
  11. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    I knew Alphia to say 'hello', but I didn't have face time with either of them.
    The Aberree was a hoot, interesting to read, and as you say, gave some less than pretty anecdotes about the Hub.
    Thanks for mentioning it.
    We should put out an Ex newsletter. The ESMB Cull" lol.
    A project for LA exes..a newsletter "The Cull" passed around , left lying around, put in laundromatBBs and restaurants and shops all around PAC.
    I guarantee that it would find its way into many active scn'ists hands.:buzzin::buzzin::buzzin:
     
  12. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?


    What a woonderful idea
     
  13. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    Agree :yes:
    Yes. That's a wonderful idea!
     
  14. phenomanon

    phenomanon Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III (ie. had a Psychotic Break) in your org?

    Where's that Drone? Can a Drone drop leaflets?
     
  15. Hypatia

    Hypatia Pagan

    Re: How many people went type III in your org?

    I don't agree. I think it's like an NDE.
     
  16. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: How many people went type III in your org?

    And what is happening to the mind under stresses. Does it form engram's or do neural pathways try to reformulate " understandings" or for that matter what is going on in a type 3 situation or a NDE? Lesions reopened? Facsimiles corrupted? Data banks of stored info wrongly dumped into open pathways.
    Altered states of body and mind are not necessarily what our biases may lead us to believe.
    One thing we do know is psychosis is non optimal. And NDE probably falls into the mind state where delusions are likely.
     
  17. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Not sure if anything has been previously posted about this person (Likki from the Incredible String Band) but here goes...

    This is a series of comments on Mike Rinder's blog from a couple days ago I'm cross-posting over here.


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  18. Free to shine

    Free to shine Shiny & Free

    ^^^^ Wow, thanks!

    Calling Veda ....:megaphone:
     
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  19. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    Another painful story, straight away from ''OT phenomenas, wins and gains...'' ; a lost soul gone in despair, expelled form reality , here on earth, straight into a delluded psychosic pseudo reality space opera....

    There are so much...it's like a hall of horror alive museum
    We are all walked deep into the spiritual death row of $cientology processes :unsure:

    And all of what we know, stories we have read are just the tip of the iceberg :duh:

    Most of people who lost it, either commited suicide, dispapeared , vanished, have gone homeless,
    they must be discared without sorrow...

    The following message had been posted on this board by an ESMB member

    There has been a thread about her

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?4879-Licorice-quot-Likkie-quot-McKechnie&p=91981&viewfull=1#post91981

    May be transmitted to people who are looking for her. :confused2:
     
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  20. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Her former husband, Brian Lambert was the author of that series of posts above. If anyone is connected to him then please pass it on, ok?
     
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