Just a little follow up from my earlier posts.
There has been a remarkable amount of stuff floating on this back channels. It seems another significant whistle-blower was staying at the same hotel and saw the moxon parade all over the place.
I honestly don't know how much of the whole thing is true or not, and don't care enough to to really try and evaluate, everyone I know who was touched by this is over the shock. I am done with it all now.
A few interesting perspectives.
Imagine the behind the scenes DM/Moxon dynamic here. A person who was already declared changed their name and re-joined the SO (I believe this is true). Mox can't allow her to be arrested on criminal charges because then an attorney will be provided as a public defendant, an attorney would have shut this whole thing down. Then it goes public, they may have detained her illegally for a week or so. Does he try and get charges put up now? She has cooperated. She is refusing to be muzzled. The COS let the cat out of the bag with the Soter threat letters, gave it credibility. Before that everyone thought it was a hoax.
Now if the COS calls her a liar on the false imprisonment, they discredit their threat letter or worse. Their key witness for the threat letter is someone who believed or still believes, by her own admission, that she is re-incarnated Quentin Hubbard and has publicly stated such numerous times. Yulia is also a self proclaimed Indy. Moxon had to know this, I am sure DM has gone bat shit crazy.
Soter's threat letter has inspired Karen to retain Ray Jeffrey, so is infinitely more resistant to future harassment.
As SO members are no longer staff or employees, purely religious volunteers that sign a billion year contract, how exactly does a volunteer betray a staff contract? Confidentiality clause? How does a volunteer commit industrial espionage? Beats the meter? No one in the SO can feel safe any more. What is the law covering un paid volunteers trying to extract data on human rights abuses?
Consider this; What if Yulia and her friends pulled it off, got video and evidence of abuses and human rights violations? Caused grievous harm to the power structure preserving the abuses? They would have been heroes. There were serious operational and execution flaws. But what if?
They have also set a wonderful precedent for others doing the same in the future. It is not commercial/monetary espionage. What if this falls under a religious belief by some aspect of the indy movement. The COS, in how they beat the headlys in their case, has left all sorts of things open under religious practices. DM in his victory over the headleys destroyed the COS ability to pursue the Indy movement on their use of the tech.
This could only be the beginnings of a long hot summer of Epic Fail!!
There has been a remarkable amount of stuff floating on this back channels. It seems another significant whistle-blower was staying at the same hotel and saw the moxon parade all over the place.
I honestly don't know how much of the whole thing is true or not, and don't care enough to to really try and evaluate, everyone I know who was touched by this is over the shock. I am done with it all now.
A few interesting perspectives.
Imagine the behind the scenes DM/Moxon dynamic here. A person who was already declared changed their name and re-joined the SO (I believe this is true). Mox can't allow her to be arrested on criminal charges because then an attorney will be provided as a public defendant, an attorney would have shut this whole thing down. Then it goes public, they may have detained her illegally for a week or so. Does he try and get charges put up now? She has cooperated. She is refusing to be muzzled. The COS let the cat out of the bag with the Soter threat letters, gave it credibility. Before that everyone thought it was a hoax.
Now if the COS calls her a liar on the false imprisonment, they discredit their threat letter or worse. Their key witness for the threat letter is someone who believed or still believes, by her own admission, that she is re-incarnated Quentin Hubbard and has publicly stated such numerous times. Yulia is also a self proclaimed Indy. Moxon had to know this, I am sure DM has gone bat shit crazy.
Soter's threat letter has inspired Karen to retain Ray Jeffrey, so is infinitely more resistant to future harassment.
As SO members are no longer staff or employees, purely religious volunteers that sign a billion year contract, how exactly does a volunteer betray a staff contract? Confidentiality clause? How does a volunteer commit industrial espionage? Beats the meter? No one in the SO can feel safe any more. What is the law covering un paid volunteers trying to extract data on human rights abuses?
Consider this; What if Yulia and her friends pulled it off, got video and evidence of abuses and human rights violations? Caused grievous harm to the power structure preserving the abuses? They would have been heroes. There were serious operational and execution flaws. But what if?
They have also set a wonderful precedent for others doing the same in the future. It is not commercial/monetary espionage. What if this falls under a religious belief by some aspect of the indy movement. The COS, in how they beat the headlys in their case, has left all sorts of things open under religious practices. DM in his victory over the headleys destroyed the COS ability to pursue the Indy movement on their use of the tech.
This could only be the beginnings of a long hot summer of Epic Fail!!
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