Scientology relies heavily on Russian immigrants — and ‘disconnection’ doesn’t spare them

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    Scientology relies heavily on Russian immigrants — and ‘disconnection’ doesn’t spare them

    [Katrina Reyes and her mother Yelena, in their Sea Org whites]

    We first heard from Katrina Reyes some nine years ago, when Jason Beghe encouraged her to talk to us for a story at the Village Voice. For various reasons, Katrina wasn’t ready yet to tell her tale.

    We’ve been waiting patiently ever since. And [...]

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  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    From the article
    How and why was her mere presence enturbulating to SO members? Because she left the SO, and was happy and prospering. Can't have that. Can't be a living, walking advertisement for "life after leaving the Sea Org". Mustn't give ideas to SO members that they could improve their miserable existence by walking away.

    The official narrative is that people only leave the SO because of their own overts and withholds. In HCO PL "Sea Org Resignation", LRH says that people who resign from the SO are "out ethics degraded beings" who are never to be hired by any lower org or mission. Can't have a flourishing and prospering ex-SO making people see this is a lie.
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  3. pineapple

    pineapple Patron Meritorious

    Interesting. I never knew that. I believe I was on staff at a mission with someone who had formerly been in the SO. At that time I did not know she had been in SO. She never mentioned it. (That makes sense, as it would have been "entheta" and enturbulating.) Apparently they worked it out somehow. She appears in this picture, taken years before I met her. It's definitely her, standing with her hand on the guy's shoulder, two people to Yvonne's right. She was already an OT III and Cl VI when this photo was taken.

    She can also be seen briefly at St. Hill in the film "Scientology: A Faith for Sale." Her name was Liza Thomas (married name Hedin). I believe she'd now be deceased. She rejoined SO around the time I got out of scn.
  4. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    You are not supposed to be eligible for staff if you resigned from the SO. If they offload you, it doesn't count as a resignation. What they would often do is offload people who wanted to leave ("you can't quit, you're fired").
  5. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    At my Class V org we had quite a few ex-SO people join staff. I don't know what their official status was with regards to the SO but it was known that they used to be SO and now they are org staff members. Off-hand I can think of three married couples and 3 or 4 individuals and this was a really small org.
  6. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    Lrh told bill Franks and David Mayo that people blew because of upsets not OWs. That aligns with common sense.
  7. TomKat

    TomKat Patron Meritorious

    And yet, LRH wrote a bulletin "ARC breaks and missed withholds" which says the ARCX is a restim of a missed withhold.
  8. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    That's right. If there're aren't any w/holds there aren't any ARCXs. Also, no PTS.

    So be a good little thetan and divulge all your secrets to L. Ron...Mankind's Greatest Friend.
  9. Terril park

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    I'm inclined to accept that ARCX can be a restim of
    a missed withold. But that dosn't make all ARCX a restim
    of a missed withold. An injustice for example may cause
    an ARCX.
  10. pineapple

    pineapple Patron Meritorious

    Many things in scn are like that. They are true some of the time. But LRH says they're true ALL the time, as though it was some great cosmic law that he's discovered. I've seen ARCX's result from MWH's, since leaving scn, but that doesn't mean ALL ARCX's are caused by MWH's. I didn't ARCX with scn because they'd missed my WH's, for example.

    Other examples: 1) ALL blows are caused by Overts. Some may be, but not all. 2) All illness is caused by PTSness. There are some "toxic" individuals who can upset you so much you get sick, but that doesn't mean ALL illness comes from such people. Even scn sometimes has to go "whole track" to find the supposed SP.
  11. Terril park

    Terril park Sponsor

    I'd add that one does not have to be effect of SPs
    or toxic individuals or however one wishes to categorize
    such individuals.
  12. TomKat

    TomKat Patron Meritorious

    In my experience illness stems from extremely confident black entities that wrap around you while you're sleeping and try to trick you into accepting them. Is that the price of belonging? Kinda fits with PTS-illness theory. And the longer you're in the Church the more lies you buy to belong, till eventually you become PTS to reality every time you accidentally brush up against it. Like when people who are devoting their lives to freeing Mankind prove to be selfish, conniving scumbags :)