She took a DNA test. 14.3% Ashkenazi. Now she’s a Jewish Scientologist. Who celebrates Christmas

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  1. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    She took a DNA test. 14.3% Ashkenazi. Now she’s a Jewish Scientologist. Who celebrates Christmas.

    Azhlynne's Blog: The Shallow, Shiny Scientologist

    https://azhlynne.wordpress.com/2018/12/30/the-shallow-shiny-scientologist/

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    There is a recent blog post on the STAND League’s website by a Shannon Burwell that is both naïve and insensitive at the very least. It is also an excellent example of the real lack of understanding by Scientologists for what religion is.

    It can be found here in it’s entirety;

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    https://www.standleague.org/blog/how-science-helped-me-find-more-religion.html
    In her post Shannon writes that through a 23andMe DNA test she “discovers” that she has some distant relationship with the Ashkenazi Jews.

    “On one recent Christmas, my mother gave me a “23andMe” test. As I scanned down the results, I saw I was white, white, super-white, couldn’t be more white and

    14.3% Ashkenazi

    Wow!”


    Suddenly she is Jewish.

    “As soon as I learned, I announced on Facebook that my Jewish friends should welcome me to the tribe. I was so excited. I now had an entirely new group that I could call my own.”

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    2. You cannot claim membership in or brotherhood with any other religion when your own teachings are heretical to the beliefs and doctrines of those other faiths.

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  2. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Great blog post. Thanks for sharing!

    With some things she wrote I figured she is an ex-scientologist. Was surprised to find she's a never-in.
     
  3. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

    She has a great understanding of Scientology. She has recently written some of the most insightful posts about the subject that I've seen.

    She also writes from the perspective of a Christian person of faith, which adds something. I say this not a qualification or a limitation of the above, and it is by far not the only reason her posts are insightful. Her perspective does, IMHO, add something.
     
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  4. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Stefani Hutchison is a regular on Mike Rinder's blog. She certainly knows how to deal with scientologists when they play the religion angle.
     
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  5. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    The Ashkenazim are not traditional Jewish, they adopted the Jewish religion.
     
  6. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    OSA likes it when Scientologists publicly identify as being Christian Scientologists or Jewish Scientologists because it creates the illusion that Scientology is compatible with other religions.

    Of course there is NO compatibility, and that's great when people like her understand that and educate others.
     
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  7. TomKat

    TomKat Patron with Honors

    If that were true it wouldn't show up in DNA. You might have heard of this thing called the diaspora, check it out...
     
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  8. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    While mixing and mingling will likely occur, DNA research has discovered a different origin than claimed.


    Genetic Roots of the Ashkenazi Jews
    Most Ashkenazi Jews, traditionally believed to have descended from the ancient tribes of Israel, may in fact be maternally descended from prehistoric Europeans.


    "The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published today (October 8) in Nature Communications. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe."

    https://www.the-scientist.com/daily-news/genetic-roots-of-the-ashkenazi-jews-38580
     
  9. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Yes, and more specifically... eastern European descent.

    The god Yahweh of the Tanakh (i.e. Old Testament) was a tribal god.
    So, I am not surprised that they would believe that they are genetically Hebrew.
     
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  10. TomKat

    TomKat Patron with Honors

    Migrating Jews brought the religion to Europe. They took local wives who adopted the religion/culture. This is not a controversial subject, it is well-known.
     
  11. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    Then why did you make it a point to make it an issue?
     
  12. TomKat

    TomKat Patron with Honors

    Not my point. I was refuting YOURS that the Ashkenazi were pure Europeans who for some reason converted to Judaism. Probably a migrating bird dropped a Torah in the village and they all converted. No sex involved :)
     
  13. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    I never said they were pure European, I said they were not original Jewish people, big difference.
     
  14. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Have you done any reading about the history of the Khazars? Just curious.
     
  15. freethinker

    freethinker Crusader

    Not a lot. I read a historians account once. He noted them as having a penchant for war, for renting armies for profit.
     
  16. TomKat

    TomKat Patron with Honors

    that's where I thought this was going...