I guess I'm just nattering again.
I probably didn't even deserve $10 per day, even on my best days, I was so downstat and so out-ethics all the time.
See, I really believed that the reason my pay was so low was because of ME. It was some out-ethics situation I was involved in, or some overt that I'd committed. At the most charitable times, my poverty could be explained by "lack of hatting".
There's usually an overt or a misunderstanding at the bottom of these situations. The overt or misunderstanding is likely never what your seniors believe it to be. They plug in their item, not your own. People don't get comm eved for what they have done, but for what it is believed they have done.
Scientology operates on a substitute confront. If it isn't written it isn't true. So everything goes in writing, even bullshit that isn't true at all. Beings aren't confronted. Your pc folder is C/S'd; your ethics file is reviewed. These things are never properly representative of what is in your heart and soul.
So, from personal experience, I suspect it was probably your files that were being paid $10 per week because that's all the person being described therein was worth.
There's really a truth and a joke there. I hope one and all get it.
Pc's who commit continuous overts are candidates for being resistive cases. Not that I am resistive, not that you are. But, trying to live in a society that revolves around money on a mere $10 a week gives any being a continuous problem (suggesting PTSness) and an opportunity to commit continuous overts in an effort to resolve the situation.
But here's the overt, again I speak for myself more than anyone else so don't make this your item if it isn't: Living a life not your own. Working for no pay, fun at times, but not enough fun to override no or inadequate pay.
And, like I say, the overt is never what seniors think it is.
In preparation for my comm ev one of the things I was hit with was "out 2-D." Now you know in scientology that means just one thing: You are bonking a person not your legal partner, not your spouse.
Sorry, not my item, not in 35+ years.
But "out 2-D," yes. 2-D, before the redefinition, means the sex act and the rearing of children. All I had to do is accept that I was spending time on post that I should have been spending with, and wanted to spend with, wife and children. And realizing the ways I had given up on my own hopes and dreams, I decided to "make it go right." Right, of course, as defined by me because it is MY LIFE!
So there you go. Out-2D I was. Could management have figured it out? Nope. They suffer from selective perception.
The solution to many of these seemingly unresolvable staff difficulties is actually very simple: Just walk away. Then, get on with your life.
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Actually, Ted, I have a little bit different view of it now.
I was trying to sell a bullshit philosophy in a materialistic society for a living.
Literally 98% of the people who were interested in something we had to sell, enough to buy a book, or to do a free service, never came back.
Of the remaining 2%, 3/4s of those disappeared after the first course or two.
The rest continued up the Bridge as Scientologists for while, and then left. Of all the people who have ever become interested in Scientology at one time, such an infinitesimal minuscule of them ever stay that it is simply not a viable way to make a living.
And the only reason the Church of Scientology still exists with any staff at all is because they are lied to so thoroughly, and so coerced with ethics handlings and introverted with OW write ups and SRAs, that they are literally slaves. And even the overwhelming majority of them wake up and finally leave, too!
It's like pushing a dead horse up a hill for a living.
Pretty soon you just say, "Why am I doing this?"
... And Ron got rich selling his fiction books....NOT from the cult. Oh my. Delusion was grand.
Are you sure? Or maybe I don't understand what you mean with "Delusion was grand."
LRH got rich trough donations, too. Yes, he wrote fiction books, but the truth is, they didn't bring much money
I wonder, why everybody is only riding here on the luxury of DM. I agree, it is more obvious, but LRH, too, was not a poor man.
Dianetics and Scientology were really lucrative, for him too.
(sorry Clammy - I beat you to answering!)
Ladybeetle - she is being very sarcastic.
What finallyfree meant is that clamicide was being sarcastic, I think.
I'm pretty sure everyone here knows that LRH got rich off of scientology, including our favorite clam-killer.
Yes, this is an interesting post, especially when in the SO you are rarely paid and you are one lucky SO member if you have a stash no one knows about.
As long as anything that creates good PR is paid for, such as lavish events, beautiful buildings etc well then thats okay isn't it.
I laugh at the fact that if you want something lavish for yourself, well then of course you would be PTS to the middle class, Go Figure that one too!
Sir Facer - Very nicely stated key points. The hypocrisy is so thick. DM and his lieutenants should be leading by example, instead they practice the philosophy, "Do as I say, not as I do".
I used to Disburse payroll in a Sea Org org in the 1970's and am pretty familiar with their system. We had an out Ethics guy who was in Treasury, I think his post title was CASHIER; hIs job was to collect on freeloaders debts and any monies owed to the Org by ex-staff or public. A bonus system created at Flag was put in for Cashiers to receive 10% of anything they collected. Another system was put in at the same time for the Case Supervisor to receive a bonus based on the cumulative amount of TA (tone arm action) of all the sessions which he C/sed during the week. If this TA went above a certain baseline, he would get bonuses based on how much over the baseline he got.
One week, the Org had a low GI. The base pay for staff was $10 a week. We were told we were only getting half pay, $5 per week. Meanwhile the Cashier, Mark, received over $700 and the non Sea Org Class VIII, Don, also received over $700. $700 was pretty big bucks in the early 1970's probably $3,500 or $4,000 in today's money.
I was forced to disburse this money on Friday and it made me sick to do so.
The hard working dedicated rank and file only got $5 while an out Ethics crooked Cashier and a non Sea Org C/S. got over $700 each. I routed myself to Ethics for participating in this farce but the Ethics Officer said I had done nothing unethical. I was told to write a report to Flag explaining the inequiites of their bonus systems which I did. The bonus systems ended about 6 months later. The day after his bonus system ended, the Cashier routed off staff - he was only there for the money.
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I know this s written a while ago, however I just hoped onto this thread again and read your post here, and have to say I saw this stuff go on when I was on staff too, when top execs would be walking around all cashed up and the rest of us would have pennies to shine! what a joke the staff pay system is with in the church. Lets just hope the governments of this world recognise that the CoS condones slave labour, with idiots at the top rolling around in gold
I often saw payroll figures in 1973-5 at AOSHUK (I worked in Dept 8 and also as FBO) and again around 1980/1 (FBO again). The top execs generally didn't get paid significantly more than the rest of the crew. The ones who raked it in were the reges and booksales people. The Non-SO tech people, in the days when there were such, generally got more money than the SO people (duh), but since they had to pay rent and buy food etc. that was not unfair. They were rarely paid a living wage, let alone huge amounts. There could have been some ridiculous tech bonus system for NSO, but I didn't see it.
I did see ridiculous book bonuses being paid out, week after week after week, that did make me sick. Thousands of dollars being paid to reges for getting people to use money they had on account already for training and auditing for "special properties", i.e. fancy leather-bound copies of books selling for thousands of dollars. Just in case anyone doesn't understand this, here it how it works. Book income and tax setasides and so forth are subtracted from the gross income for that week, and the org gets to spend maybe 40-50% of what is left (the "Corrected Gross Income"). This is irrespective of whether the book income is fresh money, or is a debit from account of money paid in years before.
So maybe the org makes $25,000 income that week, and the CGI would have been maybe $20,000, and the org gets to live off maybe $8,000 for utilities, postage, promo, staff pay etc. If some criminal reg like Hazel Grafton or Peter Morgan then "sold" a leatherbound piece of shit to someone for $4,000, making themselves $600 commission in the process, it would make no difference to the Gross Income for the week, but the book income would jump by $4,000, and the CGI would shrink by $4,000. In this case, the org would suddenly have only $6,500 for stuff that week. It was heartbreaking. My complaints were met with "Books make booms," and the fact that one leatherbound copy of Battlefield Earth bought as an investment (hah!) didn't exactly fit into the "Books are Dissemination" theory didn't enter into their thoughts at all.
Paul