Travolta / Gotti Film release cancelled!

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  1. triumph

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  2. DagwoodGum

    DagwoodGum Conspiracy Analyst

    Wait a minute, "in Gotti" sounds awfully necro, being Gotti's dead.
    Should have just called the film "Stool Pigeons Sing "O Sodomy O" in Da Poop Coop".
     
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  3. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    "Cadence of vocal quality"....?

    This sounds like gibberish to me....am I wrong?

    I could see saying Cadence of speech....

    But "Cadence of vocal quality" ....I just don't get that.
     
  4. IWantOffThisTrain

    IWantOffThisTrain Eternal Optimist

    Thanks Leland, I was thinking the same thing but wasnt sure if it was "just me" missing something or if it really didn't make sense to others.

    As for the movie, I wonder if it will be one that is so bad it becomes good or develops a cult following. I didnt plan to watch it but now I will have to (once it's on DVD or in On Demand wont give them stats for theater views or money brought in).
     
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  5. HelluvaHoax!

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    "Cadence of vocal quality" is like saying "speed of walking quality" or "brightness of light quality".

    Any adult with a bit of education (or who reads and/or listens to how others properly speak) would avoid such tortured rhetorical flourishes and lame erudition--and just say "vocal cadence" or "cadence of (their) speech".

    Smells like cult Superliteracy. LOL
     
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  6. guanoloco

    guanoloco As-Wased

    Obviously you're not a SuperPower completion.

    Why don't you quit being a wog and get with the program?

    We've got a planet to Clear, people!
     
  7. ILove2Lurk

    ILove2Lurk Lisbeth Salander

    . . .
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  8. Dave B.

    Dave B. Maximus Ultimus Mostimus

    To use a baseball analogy: They tried to hit a home run when all that was needed was a solid single or a double to the gap. Seriously. Make a nice 2nd tier "B" movie and everyone would be happy. Instead with typical cult-think they have to make a super-duper Oscar blockbuster.

    Kevin Connolly was NOT the guy to direct, and I doubt they had any special or even slightly different angle on writing the script that would elevate this mess above an ABC TV after school movie of the week.

    Something, anything that would surprise people and make them realize they didn't know the entire story already.
     
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  9. HelluvaHoax!

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    Excellent suggestion.

    However, OTs are extraordinarily big beings. Hence, they are only capable of creating extraordinarily gargantuan effects. On this planet.

    Scientology reminds me of that insolvent retail chainstore owner who---while nearly bankrupt and out of sheer desperation---began offering the deepest discounts anyone had ever imagined. When asked: "But how can you even afford to give such ridiculously huge discounts on all your merchandise?!" they confidently smiled and responded:

    "Well, we lose money on every sale, but we make it up in volume."
    Scientologists lose case gain on every PC, but they make it up in planetary clearing.

    Travolta's got a critical and box-office bomb on his hands that will be released in 4 more days. He considers he has an Academy Award winning blockbuster. He's having huge wins. This is the power of Ron's miraculous entheta filtering technology where nobody is allowed to invalidate or evaluate for a Scientology celebrity and anyone who does is promptly disconnected so that the celeb doesn't get devT'd while writing OT wins for Advance! magazine.

    Battlefield Earth (widely nominated as the "worst movie in cinematic history") was another such huge blockbuster that the public loved. Too bad, John lamented to himself, that the movie critics are so......critical, because criticism is part of the reactive mind that can be handled so easily by Ron's tech simply by getting low toned people to confess their crimes.

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  10. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Miscavige had a realization that it was JT's out-ethics that led to the Battlefield Earth disaster.

    Here is the real story from an eyewitness, some guy that used to work closely with Miscavige:

     
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  12. Type4_PTS

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    Junior gave the movie a rating of 7 (on a scale of 0-10). It sounded as though his favorite part was the acting of Stacy Keach.

     
  13. Clay Pigeon

    Clay Pigeon Silver Meritorious Patron

    Yes.

    Exactly.

    The essential theme and raison d'etre of film is an ironic and paradoxical use of Mafia (Muerte Alla Francia Italia Anelli) capo John Gotti as a contrapuntal comparative of L. Ron Hubbard. Easily dismissed as a fatuous and contrived exercise in Hollywood talking about itself in public.

    Or...

    A sublime fogcutter knifing though the dross of the mortal and bestial lower octave to reflect the transcendent beneficence of a profound philospher.

    It probably sucks but I can't wait to see it
     
  14. HelluvaHoax!

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    Battlefield Earth, Mission Earth, Gotti....

    They are all what is euphemistically referred to as "Vanity Projects".

    They are hollow cinematic vehicles that the star wants to do for whatever personal reasons (awards, usually; or minimally to show off their acting chops to the world and say---"See? I can do all that Oscar quality shit too---just look at all my really mean faces, stomping around and yelling!"

    For that matter 99% of Scientology's infamous scientific books are nothing but vanity projects for Hubbard, that quite conveniently also channeled hundreds of millions of dollars of fraudulently obtained, laundered money into his personal accounts/control.

    Let's go one step further at the risk of caving in any indie Scientologists who happen to be reading this thread. Scientologists themselves are each likewise guilty of engaging in "vanity projects" extraordinaire. Themselves. They are living the movie with themselves producing, directing, writing and starring as the planet saving Operating Thetan!

    Beginning with Hubbard, just think of all those tens of thousands of "OTs" that stood up at graduations and events--to proudly brag about their miraculous OT wins---they were all lying and "feeling good about it". It was all just a clownishly toxic mixture of childish wishes and vanity.
     
  15. DagwoodGum

    DagwoodGum Conspiracy Analyst

    And it was their lying "OT" success stories that hooked the rest of us into buying in, by design. Where are their amends projects where they make up the damage done? Oh, that's right, they ran for the hills when the monster they built got away from them in the darkness of the night. If a couple of OT's that didn't play that shit hadn't leveled with me in the latter 70's that there was nothing in Scientology worth the bullshit I might have hung around longer so my hat's off to them. They certainly confirmed my growing suspicions.
     
  16. HelluvaHoax!

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    Perfect!

    Back in the day, I would not have believed the following OT miracle. . .

    "Wow! I went exterior to my body and levitated my car to avoid an accident!"
    Billy Blowdown
    Uber Driver
    OT VIII

    If I hadn't also read the following OT miracle. . .

    " I am a scientist by profession, thus people have to prove things
    to me, not just make miraculous claims. I always demand
    to see scientific proof with my own two eyes, which is why
    I was satisfied that OT VIIIs can both exteriorize and levitate
    matter, because I saw an OT VIII's success story with my own two eyes."
    Carl Credulous
    Aromatherapist
    Data Series Evaluator Specialist



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  17. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    Reminds me of the Mafia's involvement with Lyndon B Johnson who inherited the office of POTUS in the 60's as is explained in Roger Stone's book "The Man Who Killed Kennedy"
     
  18. DagwoodGum

    DagwoodGum Conspiracy Analyst

    John T was on The Tonight Show last night hyping his Gotti film saying the Gotti family came to him and asked that he star in the film as Gotti Sr. and played a clip from the movie.
    Couldn't really get much of a feel for the film other than to say the stars looked like they spent way too long in the makeup tent!
    Plus was that a chimpanzee or a possum on JT's head?
    Cheeze Us K Reist!
    Made the hairline look like Planet of The Ape's Revisited, what the hell is going on with that?
    I've been noticing a lot of stars wearing hair pieces lately, some look exceedingly cheesy once I spot that they're wearing one.
    I'll probably watch Gotti when it makes it to cable as I rarely have been let down by a Travolta film, though I always have to push it out of my mind as to what cult he's a huckster for...
     
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  19. HelluvaHoax!

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    Speaking about Hucksterology. . .

    There is an eerie parallel between Travolta's dueling cults of choice, Scientology & Hollywood. They both operate through the identical marketing cycle:

    1. Dreamy Promotional Phase for my latest Movie or new miraculous Rundown: You're not going to believe my new film (or OT level), it's completely amazing, beyond your wildest dreams! It's going to be a commercial blockbuster and critical bonanza! You need to see it right now, you're going to love it, everyone's going to love it!​

    2. Distribution Phase for latest Movie or miraculous Rundown: Movie or new OT level is released to general public. Slammed by critics, customers walk out (of theater or blow cult). Altogether, a miserable, humiliating fail that is never mentioned again.​

    3. Never mind that--seriously, this time my newest Movie or miraculous OT level is going to really blow you away Dreamy Phase 2.0: You're not going to believe my next film (or OT level), it's completely amazing, beyond your wildest dreams! It's going to be a commercial blockbuster and critical bonanza! You need to see it right now, you're going to love it, everyone's going to love it!​

    The secret behind #3 is that every time there is an unprecedented failure, the huckster uses their TRs to re-deliver the same identical pitch---with the same identical boundless certainty and grinning---but "in a new unit of time". This is both Scientology's and Hollywood's successful action, the ability to convincingly pretend/lie with total freedom from guilt.


    "Never regret yesterday, life is lies are in you today and
    you create your own (acceptable truths) tomorrow."

    - Ron Hubbard (with edits by his evil twin brother Don Hubbard)

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  20. DagwoodGum

    DagwoodGum Conspiracy Analyst

    Jimmy Fallon even went so far as to conjure up the imagery of all of his long ago greatest hits like Welcome Back Kotter, Grease, Urban Cowboy, Pulp Fiction and Saturday Night Fever so as to plug the Gotti film right in next to them in succession to allude to automatic credibility and quality as part of this great lineup just waiting for you to line up in front of your local cinema to gorge yourself upon such a feast of exorbitant natural quality for which there can be no doubt about it.
    Drum roll please...
    Well the public is so starved for just one example of ANY creative juices at work in Hollywood anymore after the longest dry spell on record.
    What has happened to our creative minds in this new version of the world where all of our heroes have magically disappeared into the ether only to be replaced by this new wave of nameless, faceless zombie like pretenders to the throne without contenders in the creative rubble of what was once Hollywood?
    But then I never thought that rock and roll would be toppled by infantile nursery rhymes with swear words interspersed minus tangible melody, neither vocal nor instrumental, but rather simple rhythmic beats that might as well be from hollowed out logs or animal skins.
    They reverently call this brutish old form of village bonfire performance chanting "art and Rap", such contradictory terms.
    It's the replacement "music" now that the real musicians all have gone home now that the burnt out ravages of years of drugged out hard living has set in along with spawning their obvious premature aging.
    I guess that all of my heroes just got too old and went home without handing off the baton to the new generation.
     
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