Voicing the opinions of Past members

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  1. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    When I first got involved, back in 1987, I once asked my reg, and I only had one reg, or contact in the scientology org at the time, nobody else regged me, it was very standard you might say at the time per HCO PL's, for there was no IAS, Ideal Org, WTH, CCHR regging at the time, but I asked How do we know Hubbard is telling the truth? Her reply was He never lied to us before. :melodramatic:

    I believed her for 25 years until I started searching the internet in 2012. And I have done a lot of research to undo all the lies. :melodramatic:
  2. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Just outta curiousity:

    1. is this for an undergrad or postgrad paper?

    2. is this for sociology or psychology?
  3. sarah.glenmore

    sarah.glenmore New Member

    Hi programmer_guy,

    The paper I am working on now is for an undergrad paper. It is for a research writing course with a focus on sociology.

  4. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    The survey looks legit to me, covers the basic Sociology research strata. It's quite short, only takes a few minutes.

    My guess is that Sarah is attempting to confirm the research of other sociologists who believe a good number of those who join cults had difficulty in interpersonal relationships prior to joining and the cult system offered a way of resolving the social issues.

    Sarah, if I can make a suggestion - since some of us were in for many years and some of those years were young adult development years, have you thought of incorporating Erikson's stages of psychosocial development against your survey information?


    I thought that MIGHT be your concept, but if not, your survey information aside Erikson's stages could be interesting and add some meat to your paper. :yes: Just a thought.
  5. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

  6. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    It is almost the end of the school year.
    I doubt that she has anymore time to add-to/change her survey and then get her paper done by deadline.
  7. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    True dat. :yes:
  8. Cat's Squirrel

    Cat's Squirrel Gold Meritorious Patron

  9. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    I would guess this is quite common. I am sure there must be studies available showing the roots and mechanisms involved. But,, putting those aside and just getting opinions from those who underwent the experience about their cultification and their personal understanding of how we/they see the forces or factors involved in that cultification might provide some good insight.

    I understand it would be anecdotal, but it could still be of value. In fact IIRC there are some threads here on ESMB discussing, how we got in and why, why we stayed in, and what got us out, which would add to any new inputs.

    Where is our librarian, as I don't have much success at using the cardfile/search feature here.
  10. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    The survey doesn't differentiate between different types of scientologists - public, staff, sea org.

    It could be said that the above three categories determine how deeply a person immersed themselves in scientology therefore their experiences in the cult and getting out will be different depending on how committed to the cult the person was.

    For that reason it seems to me that the results of the survey will be skewed and not particularly useful in reflecting the scientology experience.
  11. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    That does have some merit. However, I think it is not likely that Sarah has the time nor the resources to spend millions on survey/polling by large polster organizations like the NY times did in predicting the recent election outcome.
    With all their resources yielding a prediction which favoured HC winning by a 30 to 60% favor, maybe sarah doesn't need to worry about a certain degree of scewing.

    I will be very interested in what she comes up with.