Re: Ortega and Rinder I stay with stupid. I have no info if he was involved with this theft of a diary. Quite possibly happened before he was sent to handle flaps. But my post wasn't accusative. I consider Mike and Marty's comments on this as reasonably accurate. The best exposition we have to date. Note that Marty has long ago admitted culpability in destroying evidence in this case. Anyway, he deletes a post of mine supporting him essentially I can comment here. And for that matter elsewhere. I believe I'm the only friend he has on this forum. Don't think he considers me as one anymore. So be it.