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  1. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    This exchanged with regards to Shelly happened in the comments section this morning over at the Bunker:

    Also, in case anyone missed it this past summer, Tony posted about Shelly over here:
    SHELLY SPEAKS: Scientology Leader’s Banished Wife Says She’ll Get Out “Only One Way”
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2013
  2. dchoiceisalwaysrs

    dchoiceisalwaysrs Gold Meritorious Patron

    And I bet Davey would just comment to the follow up comment to that and just say..similar to what he has said before 'people die' so now he will say 'well people get abducted by aliens ..what is the big deal' :no:
  3. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    Bump for the new lurkers plus I'm still wondering where is Shelly.
  4. rich

    rich Banned

    I'm wondering if she is in plain view of all of us , but wearing a disguise? LRH did it.
  5. Leland

    Leland Crusader

  6. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    It wasn't a good enough "Compliance Report" with sufficient evidence. No Programs Chief would have accepted it as a "Done Target" so why should we. After all, we were bashed, mistreated and indoctrinated for what real evidence is, so dm knows what kind of proof is needed to terminadedly handle this question.
  7. CommunicatorIC

    CommunicatorIC @IndieScieNews on Twitter

  8. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader

    I find that a tad tough to swallow, but yet not entirely unlikely either. I think though, that it's a bit more sinister than that simple explanation. While Uwi S. sat dying in the 'Hole' from MS and neglect, his wife Laurisse (sic), a beautiful and dutiful scilon, was getting all palsie-walsie with the Diminutive One, hanging on the heels while they (TC, Katie, Wee David and L.S.) attended various events, granted Tom-cat may have had something to do with it, but I think there is a much more obvious reason... COB tired of YSCOHB, bored with boring wife, needs compliant, brain-washed, sexeh, beard, voila! From all the years of reading I have done I laugh my fucking guts out when I run into Sci things touting 'family/relationships/marriage' blah-blah, probably some of the more hypocritical/bullshite crap ol' Hubbard (a fine example Hisself by all accounts) spewed forth onto the planet. Even though Shelly hasn't been out in public in years the little Toad makes sure to put on a happy-face..... and the ring upon his finger.

    Just my humble opinion, no puppies were hurt during this writing.

  9. renegade

    renegade Silver Meritorious Patron

    Bump for the new lurkers and for dm.

    Also wondering why the SO produced the missing son that was being looked for by his parents in a recent thread (January 2016?), but still has not produced Shelly in public.

    Also wondering if Katie Holmes or Tom Cruise have info about her whereabouts.
  10. Victoria

    Victoria Patron Meritorious

    Yeah, next year we'll be looking at a full decade where people have been asking what happened to her.
    Remember when Heber Jentshz told his brother, "I'll never make it out alive"?

    Its looking the same for Shelly. You can't just shave DECADES off people lives, life isn't that long.
    These people are being robbed of their very lives.

    It's creepy and heartbreaking.
  11. OutToe83

    OutToe83 Patron with Honors

    Just an idea off the top of my head--is there anyone who can bring a lawsuit against Shelly, for anything at all? Not to persecute her, but to force her out into the open where DM /Co$ can't directly control her immediate responses to questions.

    It would be interesting to see how far DM would go to keep her out of a courtroom. Why, someone might even get a legitimate refund if the lawsuit could be brought against Shelly instead of the Co$. :omg:
  12. OutToe83

    OutToe83 Patron with Honors

    So a friend of mine pointed out that Shelly could be represented in court by council instead of showing up in person. But, I think, not if she were being sued for--just for a wild example--libelous slander (or whatever the legal term is), or fraudulent claims, where her sworn testimony were needed about whether or not she said so-and-so. I believe in that circumstance, the only way to keep her out of court would be to have legal council plead guilt and pay damages to the plaintiff.

    Can you imagine what a precedent that would set? Anyone who can bring a lawsuit against a fraudulent verbal claim that they claim Shelly made, could feel assured of collecting a fat check for damages if DM shows he'll do anything to keep her out of a public courtroom. I don't know what Shelly's postings were in the Co$, but surely some people who talked with her could claim that they took some services based on claims she made, albeit in normal cocktail chatter, and having taken the services, discovered that Shelly's claims were fraudulent---when they, for instance, couldn't check out the efficiency of the freight train network on Venus after doing OT-whatever number the current crop of $cilons think will enable them to do that.

    I wish I could claim credit for this lawsuit idea off the top of my head, but it was probably inspired by the Cherch's handling of the IRS. I doubt that I could match them in devious thinking. The main difference between my proposed lawsuits and theirs is that, probably, legitimate lawsuits could be brought against Shelly if she has ever touted specific benefits of good$ and $ervices of $cientology.

    Of course, I would be shocked if anybody ever got a fair settlement out of the Co$--which would be all money plus appreciation interest tabulated and returned, and years of your life either returned (through OT magic, one supposes) or compensated. But I'm not talking about winning a lawsuit here, remember. I'm talking about using a lawsuit to force Shelly's alleged captors to either (1) hide her for real so she is publically acknowledged as officially missing (as in, can't be found to be served subpoena) or (2) made to appear in public court (possibly with lots of media coverage), or have the Co$'s lawyers concede guilt and pay off whatever damages are being sued for.

    Perhaps someone with actual knowledge of the appropriate laws could weigh in on this.
  13. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    Hubbard's son, L. Ron Hubbard Junior (Nibs), sued for control of his father's estate, saying he was either dead or incompetent. This was when Hubbard Sr. was in hiding.

    As far as I know, Hubbard was proved to be alive and competent without him having to go to court. This was detailed in Bare-Faced Messiah and is probably on the internet somewhere.
  14. Jump

    Jump Operating teatime

    A few sections from Bare Faced Messiah Chapter 22:
  15. OutToe83

    OutToe83 Patron with Honors

    Good point. This comparison would come under my option # 1: (1) hide her for real so she is publically acknowledged as officially missing (as in, can't be found to be served a subpoena).

    Then we can all start asking, "Where is Shelly Miscavige?" again and DM can't say (with any credibility) that she's at home and doesn't feel like coming out. She will be officially missing, like LRH was.
  16. survivalist

    survivalist Patron

    In civil actions it's virtually impossible to force someone to appear except if they need to personally testify (or before that, if they need to be deposed). However, whether or not someone needs to be deposed is a matter that can be argued.
  17. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    At this point, no one really cares where Shelly is.

    Shelly supported the DICKtator David Miscavige all those years while living a lavish lifestlyle.

    With regards to Shelly Miscavige

  18. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    Be that as it may, where's Shelly is a black eye p.r. disaster for the dwarffenfuhrer and $cientology like people wondering if Katie Holmes would escape. The question of where's Shelly ultimately lead Leah Remini out of $cientology later publishing her New York Times bestseller Troublemaker. I say some good has come from asking where Shelly is.
  19. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Agree! The only contribution to mankind Shelly Miscavige has made was to pose the Question from a Helicopter over the Grand Opening of The Stupid Powerz Scientology building in Clearwater, Florida at the Fraud Scam Base...


    Which was really theta cuz it restimulated David Miscavige's overts and withholds and brought out a lot of negative press regarding the evil cult called Scientology.
  20. lotus

    lotus autonomous rebellous

    I have a different take on Shelly Miscavige

    As a second generation scientologist raised in the SO as a kid...I consider she didn't have learned the correct social behavior, as a slave kid, an only abusive conduct toward others as an exec being at the top of power line. So I consider abusive behavior from her to be rooted in bad education and mean of surviving in the SO behavior more than cruelty and sociopath personnality. Those personnalities were seen with first generation SO $cientologists who knew they were doing wrong and abusing others, some of them craving for power and authority to make other's life a hell.

    I think her life had been miserable as a kid, as an adult who got married to DM and then as a whatever COB secretary or Communicator ...

    It has been reported that she often acted as a 'buffer zone'' to temper down DM in his ruthless behavior with SO staff.
    Depending of the viewpoint it could have been quite courageous...I don't know!

    In the event she is still alive..she certainly is no more than a lost ghost living in hell...and atoning for being an sp....

    To me it's sad...a sad outcome ...:confused2:

    I would understand, though, anyone who would have encounter any abuse or wrongness from her not having compassion (I can imagine one would have to be a bit...to survive in DM environment)

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