Would you like to see CofS revamped and reformed?

Discussion in 'Human Potential, Self Discovery' started by Voltaire's Child, Feb 14, 2009.

  1. No, I don't think reform could happen.It would never get off the ground- it would be the same.

    34 vote(s)
  2. Yes. It's possible and I would rejoin once I was sure it wasn't like it was before.

    5 vote(s)
  3. Maybe possible but I'd not rejoin as it would be: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

    9 vote(s)
  4. I don't care if it's possible or not.I don't want to see anyone out there spreading Scn.

    14 vote(s)
  5. Yes, I think it's possible but I wouldn't rejoin because I'm too used to going my own way.

    6 vote(s)
  6. Yes, I think it's possible but I wouldn't rejoin because I don't want to do any Scn.

    4 vote(s)
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  1. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    Which means I will never ever be part of it again. There are no checks and balances in Scientology. DM came in and threw people around, and people followed him. History repeats itself. And will again no matter how much Scientology "changes".
    They can "change it" or "fix it" all they want. Hubbard has already proven he was a psycho fucker. What is or isn't Hubbard? What does and doesn't work?

    90% of Scientology is following the "pure" Hubbard. That is failure right there.

    How is any Scientologists supposed to take Scientology seriously if they openly throw out certain policies. A Scientologist would never be able to point to a Hubbard policy and people take them seriously.

    It's over. Scientology will only ever have a place in the Freezone.
  2. michaelangelo

    michaelangelo Gold Meritorious Patron

    What is there to reform?. Isn't it built around Hubbard's occult nonsense?. Even the scio symbols come from the occult.

    Full of lies and false promises.

    Numero cuartro!
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2009
  3. Pascal

    Pascal Silver Meritorious Patron

    Yes, I do.

    I voted 2. The only one. 3rd dynamics go up and down. All can be reformed, all can be degraded.

    CoS does not apply Scientology. CoS is low-toned and doesn't apply ethics but a tacit and arbitrary moral code.

    If all the true Scientologists would just flourish and prosper sooner or later we would take back CoS.

    How tough can it be to take over a failing 2-bit lost 3rd dynamic run by David Miscavige?! Come on! Like taking crack from a steamrolled-over hobo. :p

    It's just a question of time and postulating an ideal scene. DM is old and has no replacement. His golden boy Tom Cruise cannot even explain what Scientology is on national television. The end of this gruesomely ugly regime is near. And only improvement is possible after DM puts his stupid flows on something. It couldn't be worse than now.
  4. Zinjifar

    Zinjifar Banned

    This Turd Dynamic needs a flush

  5. me myself & i

    me myself & i Patron Meritorious


    Stay tuned.
  6. Wisened One

    Wisened One Crusader

    It already is reformed.

    It's now called ESMB!

  7. Carmel

    Carmel Crusader

    'The raisons in the turd' (as some have described it), which are there for the picking, is one thing - The CofS is something entirely different and not something that could be "reformed" IMO.

    Didn't have an option that fitted the bill for me, Fluff, so didn't vote. :)
  8. I voted for number 4.
    Gong them.

    The Anabaptist Jacques
  9. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    Same here. The few "goods" aren't worth the damage they have done.
  10. Amadeus Einstein

    Amadeus Einstein Patron with Honors

    No. I voted #1.

    And I'd prefer that the subjects of Scn/Dn weren't presented within the context of a church. I'd prefer that it was a separate science, fully tested an peer reviewed by others. Also, that rather than the subject being seen as a done deal, that lines of investigation carried out by sufficiently knowledgeable others were kept open.
  11. Pascal

    Pascal Silver Meritorious Patron

    Yep, universities should teach Scientology "theology".
  12. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    At least in a comparative religion course. Could be really cool if they did that.
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2009
  13. Been Done Had

    Been Done Had Patron with Honors

    I'm with Amadeus...

    Lose the church aspect. Lose the admin tech. Incinerate KSW.

    Get the best tech terminals on the planet to sort though the all the materials and rejigger it from a one size fits all carwash to a more personalized ability driven personal improvement non-profit.

    Focus on training auditors, fields auditors and auditing. If you just want auditing no one will reg you.

    No must haves on anything.

    Staff makes a living wage. No clapping at pictures.

    Sea Org is disbanded.

    Good Lord I could go on and on.:no:

    Would I rejoin? Well, under my paradigm, they're really wouldn't be anything to join. Would I train and receive auditing from a group like that? Sure.
  14. Mark A. Baker

    Mark A. Baker Sponsor

    Welcome to the Freezone. Looking forward to hearing about your activities. :)

    Mark A. Baker :coolwink:
  15. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Why is this topic in the (Not Scientology) 'Independent Field' section? Shouldn't it be in the 'Scientology Freezone' section?
  16. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    Because this category fits better. You do know what the independent field is, right? Given the fact that I included choices for people who don't want to do any Scn, I could just as easily have put this in the evaluating Scn section.
  17. Iknowtoomuch

    Iknowtoomuch Gold Meritorious Patron

    Where it is has little to do with it staying on topic. Which I feel is much more important.:confused2:
  18. Veda

    Veda Sponsor

    Yes, that would have been a better choice. It has nothing to do with the non-Scientology 'Independent Field' of today. Maybe it can be moved? Good topic. Wrong category.
  19. Voltaire's Child

    Voltaire's Child Fool on the Hill

    I don't think it is the wrong category. A lot of people who are still interested in Scn outside CofS are not Freezoners and are indies. Some of them have opinions on a revamped CofS. I'm not a Freezoner and I created the thread.

    I am Fluffy and I approved this message.
  20. Pascal

    Pascal Silver Meritorious Patron

    Oh yeah, like that.

    I'm also an indie Scientologist and support our sexy fluffer. :thumbsup: :happydance: