Adam7986
Declared SP
Thanks Adam, I had no idea you were in the SO during that time period. I tried to research the google for your story but couldn't find one so I asked the question of you. I do not know if you watched the vid I posted, but Marty says he saw a change in DM in 1999/2000. And Marty says he was at Flag on a special project during that time and returned to Int in 2003 to discover "the hole". Marty does not state the special project, but it appears he was not the "leader" you claim, if you know what I mean. Marty was yet another useful idiot for DM as I stated earlier.
I have not read any of Martys books, have you? Maybe somebody who has can interject. The only person I know of is "ILuv2Lurk" poster here on ESMB.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that for you to state Marty knew everything that was going in the COS and is responsible is not quite true and to blame him is not true, IMHO.
Being brought up in Scientology, I was given no option as to whether or not I should choose Scientology. That means that i don't feel any personal guilt or responsibility for having been a Scientologist nor a Sea Org member. Which admittedly makes it more difficult for me to sympathize with those who chose the life and to perpetuate the culture of fear, control and greed that captured children like me. My own parents included. This may be where our differences lie.
Either way the titillation that Marty showed in that film was apparent. When someone experiences a trauma, re-enacting it is horrific. I have been interviewed about my experience in Scientology and I have revisited Clearwater and PAC Base several times. Each time it is a deeply emotional experience and although it helps me to separate my past by realizing that these places no longer have control over me, I nonetheless re-experience the pains of the trauma each time I visit them. I know that we all express ourselves differently when it comes to feelings like that. But never would I expect those feelings to express themselves in self-satisfaction and smugness.
I am not sure how you are choosing to qualify a "leader" but everyone at Int Base had some kind of leadership role, with Marty's being one of the most senior. Marty made no effort to minimize the seniority of his role in the organization so I am not sure why you are going to such lengths. I think we are splitting hairs, maybe splitting atoms at this point. Call him a leader or not the fact is his role was in a leadership capacity.