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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
If he had been born after 1986, I'd have been totally convinced that Trump was LRH's reincarnation. The mad, arrogant certainty in his eyes, as he spouts blatant lies, and the fact that he goes on and on about how GREAT he is, and how GREAT anything he has done is, and how TERRIBLE his critics are. If someone can show me that Trump's personality changed drastically in 1986, then I'm sold on the fact that he snatched his body. The real Trump is probably in the hole, in some poor departed Sea Org member's resuscitated body-in-pawn.

W.
Be aware that we try to keep politics out of the regular Scientology threads, and confine such conversations to the dark underbelly of the "members only politics section".

Mainly because the ex-Scientologist community has anti-Trump people like you, pro-Trump people like myself and HelluvaHoax (whose prior sarcastic reply to you might have left you puzzled), and a large number of people who just do not want to hear about politics.
 

Terril park

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One amusing thing about Scientology: on the one hand, the supposedly senior-most datum is "if it isn't written, it isn't true", and every term needs to be defined by a written reference. On the other hand, there is a lot in Scientology that is not explicitly written down, but just absorbed by osmosis within the culture.

Such is the case with terms like "wog". Scientologists refer to "wogs" all the time, and the connotation that gets absorbed over time, is that the "wog" is not just a "non-Scientologist", but an "unbeliever", someone who is seemingly incapable of sensing the truth; a person who is so enmeshed in the material world that he's incapable of spirituality.

Of course, such a definition could never be allowed to be actually written down in so many words, because it would create "PR" issues with the wogs themselves, if some wog were to actually come across the real definition in a Scientology dictionary. So Scientologists just absorb the real meaning from listening to LRH taped lectures where he speaks contemptuously of wogs and wog-dom
"Wog " may be found in the Scn dictionary.

A common or garden humanoid who is not even trying,
to paraphrase.
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Onkel, thank you for sharing your story. As a Never-In myself, I was never in a relationship with a Scientologist, but I was in love with one for years. And we're both women, so alas.. I knew her before she got into Scientology, and after she did, I started investigating everything I could about this cult, and I'm standing today after nearly a decade of research. Knowledge is power, but sometimes I wish I didn't know all that I know.
To this day she doesn't know how I feel (it took me a long time to figure it out myself), and at the beginning of my Scientology-research, I was naïve enough to think that her just knowing how I felt would make me happy. Yes, I knew full well that she could never return those feelings, but it would still make everything better. I sent her a letter, she never got it. I tried to meet her, she never had the time. Nowadays, I THANK GOD I never got to be in a situation of actually telling her what I'd written in that lost letter. As opposed to who she was before Scientology, nowadays she would never ever understand. And that would be the worst of all things. Nowadays anyway we barely talk- there are a thousand things I would like to say to her, I can't say even one.
Sorry for getting emotional, but well, Onkel I get you :console:


Perhaps she did receive your letter but pretended she hadn't ... people love in many different ways and she may have loved you enough to have made that decision in order to protect you and your feelings.

Just a thought.


:heartflower:
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Perhaps she did receive your letter but pretended she hadn't ... people love in many different ways and she may have loved you enough to have made that decision in order to protect you and your feelings.

Just a thought.


:heartflower:
If the letter was sent to her private residence, she should have received it.

If it was sent to her "care-of" an org, or to a Scientology-run hotel, then it's quite possible the letter was opened, read, determined to be "entheta", and filed without her ever seeing it.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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One amusing thing about Scientology: on the one hand, the supposedly senior-most datum is "if it isn't written, it isn't true", and every term needs to be defined by a written reference. On the other hand, there is a lot in Scientology that is not explicitly written down, but just absorbed by osmosis within the culture.

Such is the case with terms like "wog". Scientologists refer to "wogs" all the time, and the connotation that gets absorbed over time, is that the "wog" is not just a "non-Scientologist", but an "unbeliever", someone who is seemingly incapable of sensing the truth; a person who is so enmeshed in the material world that he's incapable of spirituality.

Of course, such a definition could never be allowed to be actually written down in so many words, because it would create "PR" issues with the wogs themselves, if some wog were to actually come across the real definition in a Scientology dictionary. So Scientologists just absorb the real meaning from listening to LRH taped lectures where he speaks contemptuously of wogs and wog-dom

Precisely!

There is not only a massive "hidden data line" in Scientology, there is a hidden data ocean, just below the surface of what everyone sees and reads.

While Scientology obsesses over eliminating, shattering and obliterating the "hidden influences" within the cult's organizations/networks, they actively leverage the ocean of hidden data, policies & mythological narratives that control Scientologists and keep them on an eternal treadmill.

The biggest joke is that the "knowing how to know" folks inside Scientology are always the last to know, and when they find out, they blow and are no longer Scientologists.

On that point above (mythological narratives) that Scientology actively incubates, cultivates and proliferates (verbally, never in writing), there are thousands of hilariously stupid stories that Scientologists around the world have SOMEHOW all learned about. Like.........

The celebration when the Berlin Wall came down, which Scientologists joyously believed with all their heart was due to Scientologists solo auditing on OT VII.

Yes, that happened. Scientologists actually were convinced (scientifically!) that Billy Blowdown (living with his parents in a little 2 bedroom apartment in a rundown area of New Jersey) went into his tiny bedroom, locked the door and audited himself on Xenu's body thetans. And by Billy "blowing" some of those BTs in New Jersey, he was one of the OTs that "brought down the Berlin Wall" 4,011 miles away.


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Because. . .

Apparently.....

The 75 million year old BTs were the reason the Berlin Wall was erected and they were keeping it in place.

If you ask a trained Scientologist about this, they will begin to explain to you with a cockeyed grin and a mad gleam in their eye about the "THETA:ENTHETA RATIO". You see (take out some clay here and follow along) when the earth (which is located in the MEST universe) becomes filled with BTs attached to bodies, the "space" of the planet becomes more entheta than theta.

Stay with me here, lol. And by releasing some of those BTs from Scientologists' bodies, the "space" on this planet becomes more theta. Because, apparently, BTs stuck inside Scientologists' bodies are wayyyyyyy more enturbulated than the time after they blow.

Wait, I kind of actually agree with the theta/entheta theory now. Even OTs get way less enturbulated when they blow from Scientology and Scientologists! LOL

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Wilbur

Patron Meritorious
Wow, so cool! I never thought of that!

I can really see how Trump is exactly the same as L. Ron Hubbard!

Trump built an empire of gleaming architectural skyscrapers, state-of-the art office buildings and 5 star hotels.

Hubbard built an empire of gleaming stockpiles of gold for himself, on the backs of defrauded, broken and broke victims.

It's such an amazingly identical parallel! It's exactly the same! Eerie! I got goosebumps!

LOL

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Oh dear. A person who can't differentiate person from politics. Anyone who can't see that Trump is a loony is seriously deluded. Reminds me of, say, er, Scientologists.

Not that I should have to mention my politics, but I supported Trump over Clinton from my non-US armchair. But not because I thought he was anything but a conman.

W.
 

Wilbur

Patron Meritorious
Be aware that we try to keep politics out of the regular Scientology threads, and confine such conversations to the dark underbelly of the "members only politics section".

Mainly because the ex-Scientologist community has anti-Trump people like you, pro-Trump people like myself and HelluvaHoax (whose prior sarcastic reply to you might have left you puzzled), and a large number of people who just do not want to hear about politics.
Actually Enthetan, you're wrong about that. I'm not anti-Trump. At least not in the sense of pro-some-other-politician or party. I like some of Trump's political decisions, and I tend to favour Republican sentiments over Democrat, on the whole (though I don't yoke my opinion to any particular party, in general, preferring to make my own mind up about truth). And I overwhelmingly preferred him over lying-faced Clinton (sorry, is calling her that also being political?). But I am very grateful for the gracious way in which you pointed that out (in contra-distinction to a post by another which was rather less so).

But actually though, I get it, and I'm sorry. I didn't think I was making a political point when I mentioned Trump. My criticism of his rather exaggerated personality traits didn't seem to me to be a criticism of his politics. But obviously other WILL see it that way, so I apologise if my thread seemed political. I had forgotten how A=A=A people actually are. I have gotten into similar trouble when I've said that there were certain Scientology ideas that I liked or found useful.

Apparently, when you're generally critical of the church of Scientology, you're supposed to have all negative opinions about every aspect of it. Differentiation is not allowed. You're with us or you're against us. I'm not interested in people's group affiliations, personally, because I don't have an agenda that's linked to some group. That's one problem with being in a group (and wholeheartedly in): it makes liars out of people. They have to defend some cause, so they stop being able to criticise it. I think that's true of Scientologists. And it's certainly also true of people on this board, on the whole. I think that a skill that is sorely lacking in the human race is the ability to put aside pet agendas and actually look at what they see in front of them. Truth doesn't seem important. Affiliation and group agreement does. Bizarre to me.

W.

W.
 

Anonycat

Crusader
Oh dear. A person who can't differentiate person from politics. Anyone who can't see that Trump is a loony is seriously deluded. Reminds me of, say, er, Scientologists.

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It should remind you of scientologists! That's why Danny Masterson is raping and molesting so many women; after 20, he can be a Presidential candidate as a Republican! Bonus points for raping a 13 year old.
 

The_Fixer

Class Clown
Love isn't really a factor, huh?!! And who has time for it anyway, when you can spend your life helping strangers up the bridge, so the world will be a better place.
I am honestly at loss for words. I am seeing only the tip of the ice berg, and it makes me sick, and so sad for every human being who has
been lead to believe this is the ONLY way to happiness.
True ... and (irrelevant info coming up) in some parts of the world they still say things like "I think I've caught that wog that's going around" (meaning the flu).

When I first heard the term being used as a scientology acronym/insult (back in the 70's ) I asked what it meant and was told (verbally!) by a senior GO staff member that it meant "without goals" and in that context I accepted it (because it obviously didn't mean people of colour which was how it was normally used back then by racists).
Scientology. Absolutely NO way to happiness in there.

I first heard the wog term in the HQS (Hubbard Qualified Scientologist) course. This was one of the first courses available after the introductory Communications course. I had never heard the term defined the way you did before, Trouble.
By then some of us were full of mustard about learning to be one of the group and pretty much gobbled up whatever crap LRH spouted.
For me though, it became one of the most tedious grinds I ever had to endure and almost ensured I would never do another unless tortured. Listening to LRH as a hearing impaired person was a nightmare.

Wog is used here quite prolifically in Australia as a reference to the 'flu or some virus like it. It is still used as a racial slur, but is frowned upon these days.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Oh dear. A person who can't differentiate person from politics. Anyone who can't see that Trump is a loony is seriously deluded. Reminds me of, say, er, Scientologists.
Trump is highly idiosyncratic & flamboyant. He is wildly confident, assertive, fiercely competitive and many other outrageous characteristics. But he is not looney. He is brilliantly intelligent, which is why he was able to handily win the Presidency of the USA against the heir apparent to the throne--and the veteran master-politician (Hillary) that the EXPERTS all predicted had a 99% likelihood to win!

Trumps method may be repugnant to some, the incessant trolling and trash-talking. But, anyone rejecting him as "looney" for those reasons might want to reflect upon other SUPERSTARS in their respective fields. Take the greatest basketball player that ever lived, Michael Jordan. He was also a ferocious troll and trash talk who mercilessly beat up on his opponents, running every conceivable trick in the book. No different than what Trump dos. Both ascended to the highest possible position in their respective fields. Trump, in fact mastered REAL ESTATE, CASINOS, TV REALITY SHOWS and POLITICS. His family is also stunningly successful (kids, wife, et al).

I know that many are profoundly hateful (personally) towards Trump, but that's how many masters of their game were regarded in SPORTS, MOVIES, FINANCE, ACADEMIA, SCIENCE, ENTERTAINMENT, MEDICINE, LAW, LITERATURE, ART, BUSINESS & all other endeavors of human life.

Some people are just.....intense, driven and will stop at nothing to get results. We love those kind of people in certain conditions, like War.

We love them when they play for our favorite sports team.

We even "love to hate them" in many adversarial situations.

But, Trump is no better or no worse than the great majority of other wildly successful over-achievers who ever lived. They can be monsters, but they get things done at a level of unexcelled mastery.

One of the top engineers and designers in the world works for one of my companies...a person who worked directly with Steve Jobs on the first two hundred Apple designs. He tells me many stories of Jobs maniacal perfection and relentless pounding on everyone to get it right. Jobs was hated just as much as Trump. But his results were spectacular, some of the greatest technical & design achievements in the history of the world.

i interact with many dozens of NY/LA ultra liberals in business that typically get triggered at the drop of a hat and begin spewing hatred towards Trump. I don't engage in it.

You think you are far above the fray, but re-read your posts and your degradation of others who don't agree with you. Isn't that what you hate about Trump? LOL

Ease back on the triggering there buddy, this is only a discussion here, nobody is doing anything wrong to anyone.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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I just started laughing.

It is very rare in the last 8 years that i get nasty feedback on my posts.
But whenever i venture on a political thread and certain subjects come up, i see that that the WTF[sup]s[/sup] start flowing. LOL

What made me start laughing just now was realizing that if I ever dare to mention anything about Trump that is not hysterically triggered scathing insults, the triggering begins. Because nobody is allowed to not hate Trump with all their hearts, right? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

It's a default position of ultra-liberals. It's their form of trolling. Trump has his form of trolling, the other side has theirs.

But the thing that made me really laugh was the hair-trigger responses of the left when anyone doesn't jump with two feet into the Orwellian TWO MINUTES OF HATE, lol lol lol.

I have friends, family and executives in my various companies that have this response. The saner execs and I usually plan beforehand (before a meeting) to just ignore the moments when one of the haters gets triggered by something. We have found a great strategy to prevent meetings from being hijacked by folks that are still kind of hysterical about the 2016 election. Keep in mind that NOTHING in these meetings has anything to do with politics, government or the election. These are corporate meetings. But precautions have to be taken because some of the stronger personalities will sometimes INSIST that we talk about the "grave dangers of Trump" or whatever their agenda is. They try to bring it into the meeting so they can they go full retard against anyone who disagrees with them.

Just a very curious phenomena, that's what made me laugh on this thread.

Hey, Trump haters. I get it. You're good and I'm bad. Okay, cool. Let's move on. LOL
 

HelluvaHoax!

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oh shit did i just contribute to derailing this otherwise lovely thread?

oops, if i did that.

sorrrrrrrry.

we now return to our normally scheduled programming. lol
 

Onkel

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oh shit did i just contribute to derailing this otherwise lovely thread?

oops, if i did that.

sorrrrrrrry.

we now return to our normally scheduled programming. lol

Well, I guess I sort of started this. Though it was not my intention at all. No politics. Got it!

I'm danish and I've lived in Denmark all my life. So I didn't really realize people would get so worked up about it. But the majority in here are probably Americans. Sorry!

But hey - isn't it great that we can agree to disagree? And stay civil.
 

Onkel

Patron
Precisely!

There is not only a massive "hidden data line" in Scientology, there is a hidden data ocean, just below the surface of what everyone sees and reads.

While Scientology obsesses over eliminating, shattering and obliterating the "hidden influences" within the cult's organizations/networks, they actively leverage the ocean of hidden data, policies & mythological narratives that control Scientologists and keep them on an eternal treadmill.

The biggest joke is that the "knowing how to know" folks inside Scientology are always the last to know, and when they find out, they blow and are no longer Scientologists.

On that point above (mythological narratives) that Scientology actively incubates, cultivates and proliferates (verbally, never in writing), there are thousands of hilariously stupid stories that Scientologists around the world have SOMEHOW all learned about. Like.........

The celebration when the Berlin Wall came down, which Scientologists joyously believed with all their heart was due to Scientologists solo auditing on OT VII.

Yes, that happened. Scientologists actually were convinced (scientifically!) that Billy Blowdown (living with his parents in a little 2 bedroom apartment in a rundown area of New Jersey) went into his tiny bedroom, locked the door and audited himself on Xenu's body thetans. And by Billy "blowing" some of those BTs in New Jersey, he was one of the OTs that "brought down the Berlin Wall" 4,011 miles away.


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Because. . .

Apparently.....

The 75 million year old BTs were the reason the Berlin Wall was erected and they were keeping it in place.

If you ask a trained Scientologist about this, they will begin to explain to you with a cockeyed grin and a mad gleam in their eye about the "THETA:ENTHETA RATIO". You see (take out some clay here and follow along) when the earth (which is located in the MEST universe) becomes filled with BTs attached to bodies, the "space" of the planet becomes more entheta than theta.

Stay with me here, lol. And by releasing some of those BTs from Scientologists' bodies, the "space" on this planet becomes more theta. Because, apparently, BTs stuck inside Scientologists' bodies are wayyyyyyy more enturbulated than the time after they blow.

Wait, I kind of actually agree with the theta/entheta theory now. Even OTs get way less enturbulated when they blow from Scientology and Scientologists! LOL

.

Great story! I'm enclined to think that's exactly what happened.

M told me that it had been predicted in ancient Buddhist scriptures that a brilliant man with red hair would change the world..
 

Onkel

Patron
Onkel, thank you for sharing your story. As a Never-In myself, I was never in a relationship with a Scientologist, but I was in love with one for years. And we're both women, so alas.. I knew her before she got into Scientology, and after she did, I started investigating everything I could about this cult, and I'm standing today after nearly a decade of research. Knowledge is power, but sometimes I wish I didn't know all that I know.
To this day she doesn't know how I feel (it took me a long time to figure it out myself), and at the beginning of my Scientology-research, I was naïve enough to think that her just knowing how I felt would make me happy. Yes, I knew full well that she could never return those feelings, but it would still make everything better. I sent her a letter, she never got it. I tried to meet her, she never had the time. Nowadays, I THANK GOD I never got to be in a situation of actually telling her what I'd written in that lost letter. As opposed to who she was before Scientology, nowadays she would never ever understand. And that would be the worst of all things. Nowadays anyway we barely talk- there are a thousand things I would like to say to her, I can't say even one.
Sorry for getting emotional, but well, Onkel I get you :console:

I'm so sorry. Sounds like scientology changed her quite a bit. Must be hard to look at someone you used to know and love, and now feel so estranged. I hope you have found - or will find, a person who is free to love you back! Thank you for telling me your story!
 

Wilbur

Patron Meritorious
Trump is highly idiosyncratic & flamboyant. He is wildly confident, assertive, fiercely competitive and many other outrageous characteristics. But he is not looney. He is brilliantly intelligent, which is why he was able to handily win the Presidency of the USA against the heir apparent to the throne--and the veteran master-politician (Hillary) that the EXPERTS all predicted had a 99% likelihood to win!

Trumps method may be repugnant to some, the incessant trolling and trash-talking. But, anyone rejecting him as "looney" for those reasons might want to reflect upon other SUPERSTARS in their respective fields. Take the greatest basketball player that ever lived, Michael Jordan. He was also a ferocious troll and trash talk who mercilessly beat up on his opponents, running every conceivable trick in the book. No different than what Trump dos. Both ascended to the highest possible position in their respective fields. Trump, in fact mastered REAL ESTATE, CASINOS, TV REALITY SHOWS and POLITICS. His family is also stunningly successful (kids, wife, et al).

I know that many are profoundly hateful (personally) towards Trump, but that's how many masters of their game were regarded in SPORTS, MOVIES, FINANCE, ACADEMIA, SCIENCE, ENTERTAINMENT, MEDICINE, LAW, LITERATURE, ART, BUSINESS & all other endeavors of human life.

Some people are just.....intense, driven and will stop at nothing to get results. We love those kind of people in certain conditions, like War.

We love them when they play for our favorite sports team.

We even "love to hate them" in many adversarial situations.

But, Trump is no better or no worse than the great majority of other wildly successful over-achievers who ever lived. They can be monsters, but they get things done at a level of unexcelled mastery.

One of the top engineers and designers in the world works for one of my companies...a person who worked directly with Steve Jobs on the first two hundred Apple designs. He tells me many stories of Jobs maniacal perfection and relentless pounding on everyone to get it right. Jobs was hated just as much as Trump. But his results were spectacular, some of the greatest technical & design achievements in the history of the world.

i interact with many dozens of NY/LA ultra liberals in business that typically get triggered at the drop of a hat and begin spewing hatred towards Trump. I don't engage in it.

You think you are far above the fray, but re-read your posts and your degradation of others who don't agree with you. Isn't that what you hate about Trump? LOL

Ease back on the triggering there buddy, this is only a discussion here, nobody is doing anything wrong to anyone.
Yes, I may indeed have been quick on the trigger HH. I'm not a student of Trump, so I'm no expert on all his achievements. But from the little I have read of him, my impression is that he basically defrauded people with his Trump University, and he doesn't seem the type of person I would lend money to if he needed a hundred bucks (based on his personality, not his bank balance). Even if the Trump University point doesn't stand, he still doesn't strike me as a person who cares about anyone but himself. Hubbard was just as successful as Trump in his own way. I don't see all that much difference between them. They were both able to "make it go right" to look after their own interests. Material and career success do not equate to moral fibre, however. That's the whole problem with the Sea Org, for example. Those who thrive in it are ruthless, arrogant pricks who abuse others. If that's your criterion for a role model, looking at their 'stats' and ignoring their gaping lack of humanity, so be it. It doesn't happen to be mine.

My "degradation of those who don't agree with me" always, if you do inspect my past posts, follows upon someone being disrespectful of my opinion. My own personal preference would be that each states their opinion, but without denigrating anyone else's opinion. But when I feel denigrated, I will respond accordingly. Starting a reply with "Wow so cool I never thought of that!" (said with irony, and basically meaning "you're so wrong it's hardly necessary to mention it") is just another way of showing extreme disrespect for another's opinion. If you don't want to be disrespected, then starting a post with that is hardly the way to go about it. Enthetan's response was, I thought, much better. (S)he pointed out to me that what I was saying might be a political point, and should go in that section. That's polite and respectful. And didn't warrant any negative response from me. Whilst I may have been quick on the trigger, it was warranted. I can't be polite to people who insult me forever.

W.
 

Onkel

Patron
I remember introducing a pretty female friend of mine to Scientology at my local org. She had a boyfriend at the time. At one point, the ED (Executive Director) of the org was pushing me to make a move on her, as he knew I fancied her. "But she's got a boyfriend," I remonstrated. "So what?" he replied. "Just take her from him." I considered this a bizarre way of thinking. To me, ethical behaviour meant respecting the fact that she was in a relationship. I considered stealing her away from her boyfriend to be an instance of unethical behaviour. But the ED evidently thought that it was completely OK, because I was a Scientologist, and her boyfriend was a wog.

To me, ethical behaviour means doing something because it is RIGHT, despite the fact that it might not suit you to do it. Whereas the Scientology definition of "right" sails perilously close to the idea of doing something because it suits you (your survival, the survival of your dynamics), regardless of whether it's right.

You see the reverse of this when a member of a Scientology couple falls into bad standing with the Church. Then the game becomes encouraging the in-good-standing member to toss their spouse away, all for the greater good of the group.

W.

I've often thought that scientology is the most self-centered, egoistic "religion" I've ever heard of. Because it seems to teach you to manipulate people in to getting everything you want from them, and it takes up all your time and energy - nothing left for family and the people who should matter the most to you.

M has a daughter - she got pregnant in the very beginning of her relationship with her ex husband. This summer the daughter spent two months in a hotel room at the celebrity center. They hardly ever left the hotel, because M was in sessions every day from morning to evening. They had lunch for an hour and maybe sometimes, they would go for a walk after dinner. I thought it was so irresponsible - close to neglect. And I feel bad I didn't get into it more than I did. But it was clear I had no say. Clear nothing could come in the way.

The more distance I get to all this, the more I see just how far out everything was. It's a little scary that she just got me to go along with these ideas of what was alright.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Great story! I'm enclined to think that's exactly what happened.

M told me that it had been predicted in ancient Buddhist scriptures that a brilliant man with red hair would change the world..


Yes!

Not only that, but in one of the more recently discovered ancient Buddhist scriptures, it further described the returned Messiah (Meitreyya) not only with having "red hair", but 5000 years ago even the re-born Buddha's modern name was predicted!

It was Ron!

And he did change the world!

So that part is all true, as far as I'm concerned.

I just hope that nobody will invalidate my reality.




























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