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Enthetan

Master of Disaster
LOL. Of course, what number came up last has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on what number will come up next. If 29 black came up last, that does not alter the odds of it coming right up again next spin.

Casinos pay 35 to 1 for a single number bet whereas the true odds are 37 to 1 (or even 38 to 1 in the US). The casino simply cannot lose and that is the end of it.
The assumption is that the roulette wheel is perfect, and thus the numbers that come up are totally random.

I could see a person hanging around and noticing wheels which are less than perfect, where some numbers come up more than others.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
Oh, hellYEAH! I found it!

Oh, that Ron, he just knows everrrrrrrrrrything!

After reading this, kindly stand facing the wall portrait of the mentally ill con man in a naval costume and "flow power" to him.




HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO BULLETIN OF 16 MARCH 19771; 2

Remimeo
Expanded Dianetics Series 25

THE GAMBLER

An obsessive gambler is a psychotic just like a drug addict or an alcoholic.

They are handled the way you handle any other psychotic. They don’t have to do anything for real in life because it all depends on chance and never on themselves. So you have them on the minus Effect Scale.

Life isn’t real to a psychotic gambler and therefore they never really buckle down to anything. Consequences are unreal to them and criminal acts are incomprehensible as nothing is real anyway.

Getting off overts is nothing to such people because they are not there and take no responsibility for them. Everything else is responsible—not them. Thus you have to find the trail to the R/Ses on the subject and discharge those.

This aspect of such a case is the emergency number one handling.

It has to be recognized for what it is—PSYCHOSIS.

L. RON HUBBARD
Founder


Hubbard, L. R. (1977, 16 March). The Gambler. The Technical Bulletins of Dianetics and Scientology. (1991 ed., Vol. XI, p. 42.) Los Angeles: Bridge Publications, Inc.
Meanwhile, wasn't Miscavige spending time in Vegas with the other top honchos?
 

strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
The assumption is that the roulette wheel is perfect, and thus the numbers that come up are totally random.

I could see a person hanging around and noticing wheels which are less than perfect, where some numbers come up more than others.
Oh boy, you'd have to hang around for a very long time. Wheels are checked over once a week at the very least in my experience of 25 years in the industry. They're spirit-levelled every day to check for any horizontal bias, and the 'pockets' are all checked with a spacer.

In the last legal casino I worked at (Sun City) there were digital readouts of the last, well, I can't remember exactly how many, maybe twenty or thirty numbers that have appeared on each table for everyone to see.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Oh boy, you'd have to hang around for a very long time. Wheels are checked over once a week at the very least in my experience of 25 years in the industry. They're spirit-levelled every day to check for any horizontal bias, and the 'pockets' are all checked with a spacer.

In the last legal casino I worked at (Sun City) there were digital readouts of the last, well, I can't remember exactly how many, maybe twenty or thirty numbers that have appeared on each table for everyone to see.
That sounds fine, but wog casino execs have not accounted for the fact that Scientology OTs can affect those digital readouts using presser and/or tractor beams. This has all been subjected to scientific testing and peer-reviewed studies published in the PDC tapes
 

guanoloco

As-Wased
That sounds fine, but wog casino execs have not accounted for the fact that Scientology OTs can affect those digital readouts using presser and/or tractor beams. This has all been subjected to scientific testing and peer-reviewed studies published in the PDC tapes
Don't forget the goddamned beep meter, you rockslammin SP!
 
I always appreciate hearing what Billy thinks about things, but in this case I suspect Billy may have a crashing misunderstood word.

Please have him star rate the references from Sheldrake which he can find in the thread 'Is the Sun conscious?'

Once he realizes that rocks are made out of the same building blocks as the sun his views on this whole matter may change. :cool:
I thought the sun was mostly made of iron
 

strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
That sounds fine, but wog casino execs have not accounted for the fact that Scientology OTs can affect those digital readouts using presser and/or tractor beams. This has all been subjected to scientific testing and peer-reviewed studies published in the PDC tapes
And not only that. OT's of course (and Mimsey) can influence the motion of a roulette ball and 'see' what the next card in a blackjack shoe is. If Miscavige and his cronies were visiting Vegas, what I want to know is, how come they never wiped these casinos out?

ETA: It wouldn't surprise me if some of Miscavige's gang weren't there to try out their 'OT abilities' in the above fashion; huffing and puffing and attempting to influence events in a supernatural way. They must have been sorely disappointed.
 
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JustSheila

Crusader
That's a very interesting post Sheil. Only thing I'd take issue with is I'm not sure how an 'old hand' dealer knows how to 'take out' the good players.

Yes, what infuriates real players is some jerk in the last box drawing a card on 14 when the dealer is showing a 5 for example. I've seen fights break out in cases like that.
First, when they change dealers, they have to "burn a card". That changes how they fall.

Then, if they are shuffling by hand, there are methods of shuffling to get the aces and face cards to fall together at the front, back or a certain spot in the deck. My grandfather taught me that. The cut doesn't matter, they just have to all fall together as a group so that the players' bets are high and then the low cards knock them out. Only when the high cards fall to the end of the deck does everyone win. At the beginning of a shuffle, most players start betting low and gradually increase bets if they see they are winning.

Some decks are loaded. I once counted 8 extra aces in six-deck. I was suspicious, so only counted aces from start to finish of the decks. Despite blackjack 2-1/2 payouts, aces give a far bigger advantage to the dealer than the player.

Cards can be marked. Any tiny flaw, dent bend, or slight temporary stickiness can mark a card and change the shuffle so that it's easy to get cards to stick together with it.

Sometimes dealers cheat together with one or two players. Those players will always be sitting at first or third base, the control spots. Those are the "ringers" who ensure the others lose.
 
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JustSheila

Crusader
Oh boy, you'd have to hang around for a very long time. Wheels are checked over once a week at the very least in my experience of 25 years in the industry. They're spirit-levelled every day to check for any horizontal bias, and the 'pockets' are all checked with a spacer.

In the last legal casino I worked at (Sun City) there were digital readouts of the last, well, I can't remember exactly how many, maybe twenty or thirty numbers that have appeared on each table for everyone to see.
In one audit that was done on a big, legal casino, I read that the casino was caught using a magnet periodically on the roulette wheel that was turned on and off. The readouts would have been fine, because readouts don't show when someone is betting a large amount and lost it.

Here's the thing, accounting firms are hired BY THE CASINOS. The casinos are the accounting firms' clients. The accounting firms then get them to correct the problem and they pass.

When accounting firms are hired by investigatory agencies, it's not a whole lot different. Casinos are warned, something is found wrong and they correct it, money is passed between them in one way or another, by fines or whatever, and they continue on with their licenses, good as ever.

Accounting firms make a huge amount of money because they know the system and can charge whatever they want for their services. $500-$800/hr is pretty common, but it can get as high as $1500 hr for an accountant, plus the cost of the audit itself and whatever is charged as additional expenses for reimbursement.

Corporations employ accountants in a similar way. So does the US Securities and Exchange. Remember this?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...bble-u-s-audit-watchdog-idUSKBN0TZ1XL20151216

"Deloitte, Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers and KPMG audit companies that account for 98 percent of the value of U.S. stock markets. During the crisis, nine major financial institutions collapsed or were rescued by the government within months of receiving clean bills of health from one of the Big Four. While Schnurr was deputy managing partner at Deloitte, the firm signed off on the books of Bear Stearns, Washington Mutual and Fannie Mae. Each went bust soon after, costing investors over $115 billion in losses."

The accounting firms never get busted, though.
 
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strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
First, when they change dealers, they have to "burn a card". That changes how they fall.

Then, if they are shuffling by hand, there are methods of shuffling to get the aces and face cards to fall together at the front, back or a certain spot in the deck. My grandfather taught me that. The cut doesn't matter, they just have to all fall together as a group so that the players' bets are high and then the low cards knock them out. Only when the high cards fall to the end of the deck does everyone win. At the beginning of a shuffle, most players start betting low and gradually increase bets if they see they are winning.

Some decks are loaded. I once counted 8 extra aces in six-deck. I was suspicious, so only counted aces from start to finish of the decks. Despite blackjack 2-1/2 payouts, aces give a far bigger advantage to the dealer than the player.

Cards can be marked. Any tiny flaw, dent or bend can mark a card, it can also change the shuffle so that it's easy to get cards to stick together with it.

Sometimes dealers cheat together with one or two players. Those players will always be sitting at first or third base, the control spots. Those are the "ringers" who ensure the others lose.
Thanks Sheil, very interesting. None of that would ever apply in any casino I've ever worked in or know of. Even in the 'joint' (illegal casino) that I co-managed in South Africa we'd never try and pull any strokes like the ones you mention; we'd probably have been shot and killed if we were found out doing it for a start, our punters didn't mess around.

At the start of the day the first dealer fans all the cards that are going to be used in blackjack out across the table so punters are able to inspect them for themselves and satisfy themselves that all is in order. That was a convention in every single casino I ever worked in.

Casino's in the UK are very highly regulated, no cards are ever 'burned', and there's no way in the world extra cards would be added to the deck here either.

Marked cards? Players are forbidden from touching the cards at any time. The closest they ever come to that is when they cut the cards with a plastic one at the commencement of a shoe.

At Sun City and all Sun International resorts, dealers were videotaped at all times and they clapped their hands and showed their empty palms to the camera as they left the table.

Collaboration between dealers and punters is always a possibility.
 

JustSheila

Crusader
Thanks Sheil, very interesting. None of that would ever apply in any casino I've ever worked in or know of. Even in the 'joint' (illegal casino) that I co-managed in South Africa we'd never try and pull any strokes like the ones you mention; we'd probably have been shot and killed if we were found out doing it for a start, our punters didn't mess around.

At the start of the day the first dealer fans all the cards that are going to be used in blackjack out across the table so punters are able to inspect them for themselves and satisfy themselves that all is in order. That was a convention in every single casino I ever worked in.

Casino's in the UK are very highly regulated, no cards are ever 'burned', and there's no way in the world extra cards would be added to the deck here either.

Marked cards? Players are forbidden from touching the cards at any time. The closest they ever come to that is when they cut the cards with a plastic one at the commencement of a shoe.

At Sun City and all Sun International resorts, dealers were videotaped at all times and they clapped their hands and showed their empty palms to the camera as they left the table.

Collaboration between dealers and punters is always a possibility.
US casinos have similar rules, but they do "burn the first card" when changing dealers. It could be that the UK is more honest, or at least, that all of them were more honest in the past. I was shocked when I saw the casino audits when I worked for a big accounting firm. Every game had the casino or its dealers cheating. I can't tell you how for all of them, I only was able to read so much (I was not part of the audit, I worked for one of the partners and helped compile and organize the audits before they were given to the client.)
 

JustSheila

Crusader
Magnet on the roulette wheel. C'mon Sheila, your pulling my leg aincha? :biggrin:
No, I'm not.

I'm sorry you find it hard to believe. So did I at the time. We tend to believe in the honesty and goodness and regulation of these games, but f&*k, those audits made me sick to my stomach.
 

strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
US casinos have similar rules, but they do "burn the first card" when changing dealers. It could be that the UK is more honest, or at least, that all of them were more honest in the past. I was shocked when I saw the casino audits when I worked for a big accounting firm. Every game had the casino or its dealers cheating. I can't tell you how for all of them, I only was able to read so much (I was not part of the audit, I worked for one of the partners and helped compile and organize the audits before they were given to the client.)
Yes, gaming in the UK is very highly scrutinised and controlled.

All casino employees in the UK have to undergo a police criminal record check before they are granted a licence by the Gaming Board for Great Britain to work in a casino. The casinos in most British commonwealth countries require the same. To lose your licence means you lose your livelihood, so it's a great deterrent to doing anything dodgy.

In all my years in the gaming industry I only ever heard of one case of a punter collaborating with a dealer and that was at Sun City.

The father of a world-famous Brit. music icon was a pit boss in a casino I worked at in the late seventies. He was busted while extracting bank notes from the drop-boxes with a pair of surgical scissors at the end of the night's business and before the drop was counted. He went to jail. If I ever fall on hard times the scandal-rags will hear from me about it. I reckon that information is worth a few grand since this fellow puts himself into the media spotlight from time to time and no investigative reporter seems to have come upon these facts about him so far.

I've seen a résumé about him on the net and there's no mention that he ever had anything to do with the gaming industry. Hardly surprising.
 
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strativarius

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
No, I'm not.

I'm sorry you find it hard to believe. So did I at the time. We tend to believe in the honesty and goodness and regulation of these games, but f&*k, those audits made me sick to my stomach.
Okeydokey, whatever you say sweetheart.
 
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