BAYCB
Patron with Honors
I’ve been off lines for some time now. As most of you know with the release of the basic books there was a tremendous push to sell the books. I started receiving many calls from quite a few sea org members to buy the package…( I still had some money on account ).
One of these people turned out to be someone who I had known many years ago, but since they joined the sea org I hadn’t heard from them for 30 years. It was nice to hear from this person and I tried to talk and chat as old friends would want to do. But, sadly all this person wanted was to sell the books. Well, after many phone calls, emails and attempts to sell me on the package, I got a little upset and sent the following email back:
XXXX,
As your friend, I'll be straight up with you...no more games. Yes we do go back a long ways. However we all chose a different path to walk.
I can't image what you have been through in your journey in the Sea Org. I have read many stories of others experiences at Gold and the Sea Org.
It's hard for me to believe that anyone as dedicated as yourself and your husband would have deserved to be put in the RPF. But from what I have read, who wasn't RPFed at Gold. But then, if stellar people like Marc Yager, Guillaume Lesevre and Mike Rinder were spending a lot of time "on the decks" what's really going on?
One correction here... Mike Rinder left the Church in the summer of 2007.
I had forgotten the fanaticism that one can get into to get one's products. The constant calls sure reminded me of this. I'm sure some think the Basics are the answer to everything.... but I'm not one of them. I don't have the spark to handle everyone on the planet. Actually the original intent was to handle myself, then to help my family and friends, and then others.
Now my focus is on handling myself family and friends.
In honesty, how many people did we really help at the org? Most staff rarely went up the bridge and most public couldn't afford most of the bridge.
Even in your own case, you went into the Sea Org as an OTIII and in your 30 years, where are you now? In my opinion you deserve to be at least at OTVIII.
Anyway, that’s just me.
I do my best to respect the beliefs of others and I have a lot of respect for your basic intent. However, there is a darker side to this endeavor built on lies and deceit. There is no need for me to go into that, as you have the disadvantage of being isolated from the real world. For example, do you have your own driver’s license or car? When was the last time you voted? Do you honestly think that the world will cease to exist if you were allowed a real vacation? What about your future? Sure, we are all spiritual beings and will continue in a next life, but what will happen to you as your current body starts falling apart (as mine has started to do) and you are Off Loaded from the Sea Org? Are you just told to "End Cycle" and pick up a new body?
I'm sure you are thinking, must be his crimes causing his misguided thoughts. Even with all the bad PR on the internet and the annoying phone calls, I still enjoy hearing LRH and reading his books. If my viewpoint is counter to yours, just chalk it up to MU's or Evil Purposes or Both.
If this is the last I hear from you, that’s ok. I'm still your friend and If you ever need something from me, just contact me. (I know you have my number
Your friend always.... XXXX
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As a result of the letter, all calls stopped and I haven’t heard from my friend since. Now I’ve heard from another friend of mine that this person has contacted people that used to know me and tell them to stay away from me or if still in contact to disconnect from me.
Who says that the Church of Scientology no longer practices disconnection?
One of these people turned out to be someone who I had known many years ago, but since they joined the sea org I hadn’t heard from them for 30 years. It was nice to hear from this person and I tried to talk and chat as old friends would want to do. But, sadly all this person wanted was to sell the books. Well, after many phone calls, emails and attempts to sell me on the package, I got a little upset and sent the following email back:
XXXX,
As your friend, I'll be straight up with you...no more games. Yes we do go back a long ways. However we all chose a different path to walk.
I can't image what you have been through in your journey in the Sea Org. I have read many stories of others experiences at Gold and the Sea Org.
It's hard for me to believe that anyone as dedicated as yourself and your husband would have deserved to be put in the RPF. But from what I have read, who wasn't RPFed at Gold. But then, if stellar people like Marc Yager, Guillaume Lesevre and Mike Rinder were spending a lot of time "on the decks" what's really going on?
One correction here... Mike Rinder left the Church in the summer of 2007.
I had forgotten the fanaticism that one can get into to get one's products. The constant calls sure reminded me of this. I'm sure some think the Basics are the answer to everything.... but I'm not one of them. I don't have the spark to handle everyone on the planet. Actually the original intent was to handle myself, then to help my family and friends, and then others.
Now my focus is on handling myself family and friends.
In honesty, how many people did we really help at the org? Most staff rarely went up the bridge and most public couldn't afford most of the bridge.
Even in your own case, you went into the Sea Org as an OTIII and in your 30 years, where are you now? In my opinion you deserve to be at least at OTVIII.
Anyway, that’s just me.
I do my best to respect the beliefs of others and I have a lot of respect for your basic intent. However, there is a darker side to this endeavor built on lies and deceit. There is no need for me to go into that, as you have the disadvantage of being isolated from the real world. For example, do you have your own driver’s license or car? When was the last time you voted? Do you honestly think that the world will cease to exist if you were allowed a real vacation? What about your future? Sure, we are all spiritual beings and will continue in a next life, but what will happen to you as your current body starts falling apart (as mine has started to do) and you are Off Loaded from the Sea Org? Are you just told to "End Cycle" and pick up a new body?
I'm sure you are thinking, must be his crimes causing his misguided thoughts. Even with all the bad PR on the internet and the annoying phone calls, I still enjoy hearing LRH and reading his books. If my viewpoint is counter to yours, just chalk it up to MU's or Evil Purposes or Both.
If this is the last I hear from you, that’s ok. I'm still your friend and If you ever need something from me, just contact me. (I know you have my number
Your friend always.... XXXX
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As a result of the letter, all calls stopped and I haven’t heard from my friend since. Now I’ve heard from another friend of mine that this person has contacted people that used to know me and tell them to stay away from me or if still in contact to disconnect from me.
Who says that the Church of Scientology no longer practices disconnection?