Revisionism:reconsidering of accepted truths: the re-examining of long-established practices, views, or beliefs, especially when such re-examination is regarded as unnecessary or misguided.
Key words, "unnecessary" and "misguided." Based on what criterion?
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You're quite right about revisionism. It is meant to be a perjorative term. It is the job of historians to always look and revise. But David Irving is a quack in the sense that his data, and more significantly, the data he omits, wouldn't pass the inspection of an eigth grader. He has been proven wrong over and over again, but he persists. He ignors anything others say that disagrees with his conclusions yet other historians take what he says into account when they challenge him. Lucy S. Dawidowicz is one such example.
Irving is childish and is just throws intellectual tantrums when his data is not accepted. He is not accepted because he presents a shallow, amatuer approach. What he says may make it into tabloids or even someday American mainstream media, but it will never pass the picklock of professional historians.
As far as the six million dying in the camps, the figure comes from a compilation of mostly the records of payments made to the railroad companies who billed the Gestapo on a per capita basis. It is not likely that these railroad executives overbilled the Gestapo. That wouldn't be wise.
The fact that David Irving and others don't want to mention is that the number of people unaccounted for who would have been shipped to the camps is greater that the six million that the records show. Babi Yar, for example, isn't counted among those killed in the camps, nor are those who died in the Warsaw ghetto.
And as far as Anne Frank dying of disease, that is irrelevent. She was marked for extermination and if the inhuman conditions and mistreatment at the hands of the Gestapo caused her to die before she could be gassed, like many others, it doesn't change the point or the intent of the Nazis.
Irving, like some posters on this thread, take data out of context and claim that their data is exclusively correct and all the other millions of data and eyewitness accounts are irrelevant. Don't forget the Nazis bragged about doing this. The only denials by the Nazis on trial was that they didn't have a hand in it, not that it didn't happen.
I can't believe that someone on a computer keyboard years later can simply wipe away the tens of thousands of stories from eyewitness, victims as well as perpetrators, and simply believe it is all false. This is why holocaust denying is considered by some to simply be a sign of a mentally or emotionally disturbed individual.
I have talked to old GIs who liberated the camps. I've talked to an old Soviet soldier who liberated a camp. Some Ex on this board can callously write them off as Zionist and say their eyewitness accounts mean nothing because the Ex knows it was just all made up by a Zionist conspiracy.
But these men know what they saw. They fought in a war with their lives on the line every day. Sorry, but these were real men, not wussies with keyboards.
A relative of mine who landed on the first wave at Normady was captured a few days later and spent the rest of the war in a POW camp in Poland. The compound held Americans on one side and Red Army soldiers on the other.
In early 1945, when they could hear Soviet artillery getting closer, the SS marched the Red Army prisoners out into the adjacent field and machine gunned them all.
I'm sure someday there will be some smug old fart on a keybaord who will say such things never happened because he knows it all was a conspiracy because he has a link to some other wuss with a keyboard and that is his proof.
Like it or not, the holocaust denyers and conspiracy theorists on this board do play into the hands of OSA because they show exes to be stupid and simpleminded. The irony is that most of the OSA and GO people I have known over the years believe in the same conspiracies. But they will use these statements to make less of exes.
As far as David Miscavige compared to Hitler, Hitler used to run messages to the frontline trenches during bombardments. The bombardment in most cases lasted seven days in a row, 24 hours a day. Hitler continually ran messages back and forth. He was highly decorated for it. It was no small feat.
Hitler built up his organization from the ground floor, he didn't assume command of a functioning party and run it into the ground. Apart from whatever mental insanity Hitler may have have, what he did was no small feat. He was incredibly destructive, probably unmatched in history. He at one time conquered and destroyed nearly all of Europe.
David Miscavige's sphere of influence has been shrinking from the day he took control. There is no comparison.
The Anabaptist Jacques