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I have no problems admitting that I did alot of "fucked up shit" and hurt alot of people when I was in Scientology, and after I was recovered. I have been on course to make amends for the past, pooks, but as you know, not all people are the same...
Some are willing to forgive & forget; some, like the mantra of Anonymous "we never forgive, we never forget" and seem to feel some justice in holding onto grudges.
I have not victimized people to the extent of Mike Rinder. At the same time, I did not waste 45 years of my natural life in the mindfuck of Scientology, either. Mike is 62 today and started on the Apollo with LRH at 17. I've seen a side of Mike that many have not seen and he's no monster.
Zinjifar & others of his ilk here were never in Scientology and are quick to judge & condemn. I agree that Mike Rinder needs to be held publicly accountable for his past; I don't agree with setting an immediate timeline for him doing so.
Roland,
Citation of eyewitness account, please - post link to exact source for this allegation.
Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
Roland,
You should learn to differentiate between assertions and reports.
As worded, RVY makes an assertion, not a report. He cannot have been there when Mike Rinder "heard about the cancer" and so he cannot have witnessed what Mike Rinder actually did or did not do in response to that news.
I asked for an eye-witness account. Try again.
Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
Now a days Scio's are speaking out like no other time in history.
These guys aren't heroes and while they may be victims themselves, they don't deserve the kind of fawning boot-licking they're getting.
Zinj
So save the "fawning boot-licking" for the more deserving opponents of scientology, eh?
Mark A. Baker
British mum wrote:
I remember when I came out, I must have cried for about 6 months, to me it was the emotions that I had suppressed for 15 years. Also, with Mike Rinder he needs to show himself & speak out & make up the damage he has done to others over the years.
I know the feeling re the crying.I held mine back for nearly 40 years, and when the flood gates opened - I couldn't stop.
I know we are all different and I know every person has to deal with things in their own way and in their own time. I also know Mike Rinder must have a lot on his plate, but to me if you know you can blow the lid on people being treated so sub humanely and its happening right now, surely you have to do whats right with regard all the suffering people have endured.
My timeline is really old, but I am doing what I can right now, its taken me some time to get my act together, but I am getting it together.
I don't know what Mike Rinder is doing, but Marty Rathbun is quite obviously merely continuing his career of self-serving manipulation and exploitation, however gratifying it is to see the Cult as his target. These guys aren't heroes and while they may be victims themselves, they don't deserve the kind of fawning boot-licking they're getting.
Zinj
You want DM in jail or Bulgravia, Marty is the best resource.
I recall Mike Rinder gloating and in Nazi valence talking about all of the
"squirrel" groups closed down. Those were Freezone groups majorly.
I read what he did to David Mayo.
He is in deep treason.
He sold his soul.
End of story.
Terril wrote:
Hope we meet on saturday.
Not this time,I'm on an ammends project.
Marty quite obviously has no intention of helping David Miscavige to his well deserved prison cell because Marty would be his cellmate. Admittedly, he could confess to the feds, but, he's already made it clear that he has no intention of doing so. He said so here.
Zinj