RolandRB
Rest in Peace
I still don't get it with the Ideal Orgs
What are the staff members and public Scientologists thinking when they part with their money for Ideal Orgs? They must be hoping for some return and yet it is obvious that in the past few years the Ideal Orgs around the world have remained empty - just as their ordinary Orgs have been. If the Ideal Orgs were packed with new public then sure, they could make money (except in France). A lot could be gotten from commission for the sales jobs but I read that this commission is now restricted (does anyone have the details). I can see that if the Ideal Orgs were packed with new public then they could earn a living from their work IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE INCOME , but they could earn a better living doing other jobs. I read that they are fighting over making contributions to the Ideal Orgs to secure them a job working for the Ideal Org with its potential of making money. But they would earn more by not contributing a penny and getting a decent job. And who do they think they are kidding when they expect these Ideal Orgs to fill up when they haven't in the past few years in spite of efforts to rejuvenate Scientology such as releasing The Basics and GAT and their old Orgs remain mostly empty? And don't they realise that the money they contribute to these Ideal Orgs will just be the start of further contributions they have to make? They are expected to pay for renovations. They are expected to pay for furnishings. They are expected to pay for Scientology equipment. I guess they are expected to pay to send dozens of staff members over to Flag for training for their posts. They are expected to pay the ultity bills while these Orgs remain empty. Then at the end of the day they have *given* their Ideal Org away so they have nothing to show for their money and can not claim it back when it is obvious that none of this is going to work and they become disillusioned. And why should these long time members do all the contributing when the new public (if they ever come in) will not have to contribute to the Ideal Org as it is there already?
And what if they are NOT allowed to keep the income from the new public? You can be sure that this is the case. Flag will demand that all new staff members are fully trained to a high level and all the auditors are fully trained to a high level. The Ideal Orgs will have to pay for that. There will be a turnover of staff and the new staff will need to be trained. They will owe Flag more than their rate of income and will have a large debt to Flag to boot. So if these people who fought over having jobs in their Ideal Orgs by contributing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to their Ideal Org, saw their dream come true and the public flocking into their Org and the Org being full at all times, then in ten years time of serving on staff their pay may still be only $50 per week due to Flag siphoning off all the income for compulsory training and the debt still owed to Flag for the same.
Can they not see that this is out-exchange of the highest order and against policy? Can they not see that the Management of the Church is pressuring its own members into this out-exchange condition so Management is running squirrel policy? How can these people be so stupid as to part with money for something they can all see is not working and will result in further losses and no returns?
What are the staff members and public Scientologists thinking when they part with their money for Ideal Orgs? They must be hoping for some return and yet it is obvious that in the past few years the Ideal Orgs around the world have remained empty - just as their ordinary Orgs have been. If the Ideal Orgs were packed with new public then sure, they could make money (except in France). A lot could be gotten from commission for the sales jobs but I read that this commission is now restricted (does anyone have the details). I can see that if the Ideal Orgs were packed with new public then they could earn a living from their work IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO KEEP THE INCOME , but they could earn a better living doing other jobs. I read that they are fighting over making contributions to the Ideal Orgs to secure them a job working for the Ideal Org with its potential of making money. But they would earn more by not contributing a penny and getting a decent job. And who do they think they are kidding when they expect these Ideal Orgs to fill up when they haven't in the past few years in spite of efforts to rejuvenate Scientology such as releasing The Basics and GAT and their old Orgs remain mostly empty? And don't they realise that the money they contribute to these Ideal Orgs will just be the start of further contributions they have to make? They are expected to pay for renovations. They are expected to pay for furnishings. They are expected to pay for Scientology equipment. I guess they are expected to pay to send dozens of staff members over to Flag for training for their posts. They are expected to pay the ultity bills while these Orgs remain empty. Then at the end of the day they have *given* their Ideal Org away so they have nothing to show for their money and can not claim it back when it is obvious that none of this is going to work and they become disillusioned. And why should these long time members do all the contributing when the new public (if they ever come in) will not have to contribute to the Ideal Org as it is there already?
And what if they are NOT allowed to keep the income from the new public? You can be sure that this is the case. Flag will demand that all new staff members are fully trained to a high level and all the auditors are fully trained to a high level. The Ideal Orgs will have to pay for that. There will be a turnover of staff and the new staff will need to be trained. They will owe Flag more than their rate of income and will have a large debt to Flag to boot. So if these people who fought over having jobs in their Ideal Orgs by contributing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to their Ideal Org, saw their dream come true and the public flocking into their Org and the Org being full at all times, then in ten years time of serving on staff their pay may still be only $50 per week due to Flag siphoning off all the income for compulsory training and the debt still owed to Flag for the same.
Can they not see that this is out-exchange of the highest order and against policy? Can they not see that the Management of the Church is pressuring its own members into this out-exchange condition so Management is running squirrel policy? How can these people be so stupid as to part with money for something they can all see is not working and will result in further losses and no returns?
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