Voltaire's Child
Fool on the Hill
It has not been derailed. Threads segue. If people want to talk about cult characteristics, then that's fine.
Most excellent to see this thread derailed.
There's "cult" and then there's "destructive cult." The Presbyterian Church down the street is not a destructive cult, Scientology is.
I think we shall get Marty to come here in person and explain himself and his plans, and whom he has chosen to become Voltaire's child, the highest level in the Freezone!
Shall we? Actually, Marty's already been here, made 2 posts and left. I doubt what he had to say there would answer anyone's questions, but, he is still a 'member', even if silent.
But then, I guess you were probably more interested in taking a jab at Fluffy than anything to do with Marty anyway...
Zinj
Exactly! Very true.
There's "cult" and then there's "destructive cult." The Presbyterian Church down the street is not a destructive cult, Scientology is.
Exactly! Very true.
2000 years of western history disagree with you.
I've often commented that I and others don't believe the Xenu story, but had good gains from doing what OT 2&3 said on the can.
These levels are among the cheapest to do in the FZ, as its done S.O.L.O.
ie you don't have to pay an auditor.
So one can't handle areas of difficulty re communication on grade 0
without referring to Xenu?
Nonsense!
If there's no Xenu, we don't need a 'Church' of Scientology or a 'Scientology Movement' and we don't need to 'Clear the Planet'.
If there's no Xenu, then there's no intergalactic, transtemporal plot to 'suppress' our godlike powers.
If there's no Xenu, then 'Source' lied.
Zinj
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I can't actually remember any time I made a very wrong judgement about a person.
Marty is agressive in the positive sense. He also shoots from the hip. He is though willing to change his viewpoint.
Hopefully Ax will give his viewpoint on all this.
Please exert some control over your Scientology PR man dancing feet. You're embarrassing yourself.
Quite frankly V, you are incapable of interpreting the post of any person who is remotely "pro-tech" in light of ANYTHING which is not "scientology". You are obsessive about this and routinely twist the meanings of other people's posts in your responses in order to fit your own warped outlook.
It's unhealthy. Consider getting treated for this.
Mark A. Baker
Please exert some control over your Scientology PR man dancing feet. You're embarrassing yourself.
Quite frankly V, you are incapable of interpreting the post of any person who is remotely "pro-tech" in light of ANYTHING which is not "scientology". You are obsessive about this and routinely twist the meanings of other people's posts in your responses in order to fit your own warped outlook.
It's unhealthy. Consider getting treated for this.
Mark A. Baker
"All that is seen through lenses of Hate, is distorted beyond recognition." - Me
Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
I've noticed over and over again on ESMB, since it started, that critics are accused of "hate" by apologists for Hubbard and/or scientology.
This tactic of accusation of "hate" is pure Hubbard PR tech, just as Veda has pointed out.
One should recognise the use of Hubbardology for what it is, no matter the source.
Unfortunately, like Veda has said, this hate accusation tactic often seems automatic by the tech apologists. Scientology and Hubbard's words in particular, seems to install an A=A of criticism="hate". This stems from Hubbard's own paranoia where he believed he was opposed and hated. Boy he should have got his Grades in! Instead of messing with the invention of GPMs and implants.
Scientology forbids criticism and equates it with O/W's and suppressive characteristics. It seems some FZers and Indies haven't learned the error of this piece of "tech"!
Hubbard's view of criticism stemming from "hate" is immature and unsophisticated.
People are generally only accused of hate when they indicate or strongly manifest such an emotion. When they don't, they aren't.
Bullshit
Zinj