Rmack
Van Allen Belt Sunbather
The recent discussion on what is wrong with the cult (talk about a convoluted question!) is typical of what I've seen on this board for the past few years. It seems that the same possibilities, the same 'whys' (as the still cult indoctrinated say) get gone over again and again. Except for one.
The core tech of this cult- the real meat of the matter- is the BT doctrines. Both the 'why' and the solution to all of man's problems to those who believe and know the secret doctrines of the 'upper levels'.
There seem to be two prevailing views on this:
1. Either Laffy was stark staring, a lying conman, or some combo thereof,
2. or someone somewhere, maybe the old bastard himself, got something wrong, which is the real reason there is so much trouble for those who practice this 'religion'.
No one (hardly) ever suggests that Scientology was 'sourced' from beyond Hubbard, and that's why it is what it is.
I suspect that Hubbard was influenced by 'thetans' other than 'body thetans'. They are mentioned in every religion I've ever studied, by all kinds of names, and they feature prominently in the origin stories of all of those religions. They are usually not very nice, and seem to have your worst interests at heart, although they might not necessarily appear to be malevolent at first contact. They always seem to enjoy a superior situation in various aspects. They can travel in ways that seem miraculous, they know stuff before it happens, and they have very reliable intel sources on stuff you wouldn't think anyone would know.
According to these accounts, they can engage in combat. They can directly influence individuals. They can manipulate world events.
Thinking that you can just pull out your electronic Ouija board, and 'audit' them, and get them to go off and get new bodies is rather stupid, if you ask me. This comes from the traditions of 'magic' (or 'magick' ) that had the sorcerer conjuring up spirits, binding them, and getting them to go off and do things for you. Intel, for instance. Hub himself admits to knowing about this stuff. Have you ever studied up on it?
But -according to the legends- this only encompasses the lower elementals, qlippoths, and such. It doesn't rule out more advanced beings.
The ol' man himself talked about beings that had an advantage going for them, as they were outside our space/time universe. (MEST, to you culties). He seemed to have a disparaging opinion of them, as shown in his teachings.
Although I have experienced it, I know I can't just 'go exterior' anytime I want. If anyone could, they would have it over me, that's for sure. So I question Laffy's ability to do this as he claimed, and I question his assessment of all of these beings.
There's a rumor that he died in a motor home, screaming about 'clusters!' I'm sure you true believers in the cult don't want to acknowledge this, but what if it's true?
The core tech of this cult- the real meat of the matter- is the BT doctrines. Both the 'why' and the solution to all of man's problems to those who believe and know the secret doctrines of the 'upper levels'.
There seem to be two prevailing views on this:
1. Either Laffy was stark staring, a lying conman, or some combo thereof,
2. or someone somewhere, maybe the old bastard himself, got something wrong, which is the real reason there is so much trouble for those who practice this 'religion'.
No one (hardly) ever suggests that Scientology was 'sourced' from beyond Hubbard, and that's why it is what it is.
I suspect that Hubbard was influenced by 'thetans' other than 'body thetans'. They are mentioned in every religion I've ever studied, by all kinds of names, and they feature prominently in the origin stories of all of those religions. They are usually not very nice, and seem to have your worst interests at heart, although they might not necessarily appear to be malevolent at first contact. They always seem to enjoy a superior situation in various aspects. They can travel in ways that seem miraculous, they know stuff before it happens, and they have very reliable intel sources on stuff you wouldn't think anyone would know.
According to these accounts, they can engage in combat. They can directly influence individuals. They can manipulate world events.
Thinking that you can just pull out your electronic Ouija board, and 'audit' them, and get them to go off and get new bodies is rather stupid, if you ask me. This comes from the traditions of 'magic' (or 'magick' ) that had the sorcerer conjuring up spirits, binding them, and getting them to go off and do things for you. Intel, for instance. Hub himself admits to knowing about this stuff. Have you ever studied up on it?
But -according to the legends- this only encompasses the lower elementals, qlippoths, and such. It doesn't rule out more advanced beings.
The ol' man himself talked about beings that had an advantage going for them, as they were outside our space/time universe. (MEST, to you culties). He seemed to have a disparaging opinion of them, as shown in his teachings.
Although I have experienced it, I know I can't just 'go exterior' anytime I want. If anyone could, they would have it over me, that's for sure. So I question Laffy's ability to do this as he claimed, and I question his assessment of all of these beings.
There's a rumor that he died in a motor home, screaming about 'clusters!' I'm sure you true believers in the cult don't want to acknowledge this, but what if it's true?