Doom
Lurking.
Veda, I am intrigued. Could you please elaborate on Hubbard's real goal versus his publicized goal?
Me Too
Veda, I am intrigued. Could you please elaborate on Hubbard's real goal versus his publicized goal?
Me Too
"I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form, even if all the books are destroyed," Hubbard wrote to the first of his three wives in 1938, more than a decade before he created Scientology.
"That goal," he said, "is the real goal as far as I am concerned."
Come on Swift! - You couldn't have missed it!R2-45.
Murder plots.
Operation Freak Out.
Gosh. I guess I missed all of that in my 5+ year career and 8,800+ posts at xenu.net.
I am certainly glad I have you fellows to advise me about what I need to ask when I interrogate Marty.
Thanks.
I'll get back to you on this.
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Come on Swift! - You couldn't have missed it!
Paulette Cooper: Some 'goon' shows up at her door with a gun. Paulette wasn't home, but her sister was. The 'goon' presses a gun to the sisters head and pull the trigger. Gun clicked.. Wasn't loaded or misfired.
HCO Ethics Order, 'RACKET EXPOSED 6th March 1968' in which Hubbard orders 13 named people 'processed with R2-45'
This thread has a nice collection of the instances that are known:
ESMB Thread /Death Threats
But let's just examine 'policy':
HCOPL 18 OCT 67, Issue IVNote the word 'destroyed' at the end. Placed there at the end as the most severe of this unholy collection of 'suggestions'.. I'll 'suggest' that in context, the word 'destroyed' here is synonymous with 'killed'.. Recall that according to Scientology doctrine you can't 'kill' anyone. You can 'destroy' his body though.
PENALTIES FOR LOWER CONDITIONS
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ENEMY - SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.
Yea.. I guess he was.. He got me!
But then.. I got to explain 'Enemy condition' once again!
Where you missed the punchline was when he said 'my career'.
Zinj
Time for an oldie but goodie.
Pete
Process R2-45 (parody of Love Potion Number 9)
I took advice from a red haired guru,
You know the one who said that he would sue.
He sold lots of books that are chock full of his jive,
And one made a reference to … process R2-45!
I said “I just can’t exteriorize.”
”I seek your council since you are so wise.”
He lit another Kool then he shook his head and sighed,
He said what you need is … process R2-45!
He bent down and turned around and gave me a gun,
He said “I think you know just what you gotta do son”
That piece of ugly steel sure felt ungodly big,
I clenched my butt, I closed my eyes, I pulled the trig’!
I heard a click and felt an awful fright,
I wondered why that it did not go right.
I can’t understand just why I am still alive,
Don’t recommend you audit, process R2-45!
(instrumental)
I clenched my butt, I closed my eyes, I pulled the trig’!
I heard a click and felt an awful fright,
I wondered why that it did not go right.
I can’t understand just why I am still alive,
Don’t recommend you audit, process R2-45!
Process R2-45 …
Process R2-45 …
Process R2-45 …
I remember when this came out. Hubbard was absolutely foaming at the mouth.
The "perpetrators" were all based in the Portsmouth area and involved members of David & Shiela Gaiman's family.
David Gaiman and (I believe) Tony Dunlevy were dispatched to recover the missing materials. They saw them in the back of a car and smashed the rear window to get them. This was their "making a blow against the enemy" step.
I know that certain members of a NY group were subjected to the same insane treatment as well.
All in all, this was a fairly insane time in Scn. (even by todays standards). Heavy ethics was being applied to public and staff alike. Chain lockers, handcuffs, imprisonment in cabins, armed guards, it was a madhouse on board.
Dart
Ok, Who is the Gaiman Family? Are they connected to Neil Gaiman? The "Coraline" Guy? (Great Book, Awesome Movie)
Reverse auditing? Why the hell do you believe this would be bad if you believe that normal "prraaucessing" does not work at all but the hypnotism part.
It is one thing to order murders in Public and to commit one.
If I call nearest police station telling them that " I announce hereby, that person XY living XY shall be killed from now on..." Know what they'll do?
They'd send me to the psychlos. nothing more than this.
It is not an act of crime to announce that someone shall be killed. Of cource it is commonly not applauded to, but it is not a crime.
I do not think that the meaning of R2-45 was less then really badly serious, but I think also, Hubbard did not really know how serious some of his followers would take this.
And maybe it was not important to him anyway, because these persons commited a crime in his opinion and he had every right to be mercyless since his will had been crossed. (see Admirations... eh ... admissions)
Mike
ron was mixing practices with the mohammeddans issuing a religious fatwa; there's no bounty or contract and no reports of donuts
can someone post the R2-45 process from the Blubbard? The actual process.
What is an example of reverse processing?
thanks