The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[Mark A. Baker]

Granted. Now you have John of Patmos

Zinj

Not a problem. All you've got left is the original jewish cult that jesus established and its first century jewish roots. John, whether he was of the jewish church or the later pauline church, was evidently in the spirit of the first century jewish hopes in an apocalypse. I'm good with that.




Mark A. Baker

 

[The Magic Thetan]

What is this thing called Thetan?

That number 6 was another superb one, TMT. Than you very much indeed.

Thank you for your enjoyment. I love it when someone enjoys...

Whenever I read one of your chronicles I come back to the same question that I am getting a better view of the more I progress, and that is "what exactly is a thetan?"

Is he a unit being? Or does he exist across all of his dynamics simultaneously while viewing only the tiny tiny portion he calls "self"? The more I look at it the more I tend to the latter viewpoint.

In other words - is Betsy just yourself on a broader unviewed dynamic or is she indeed a fully separate being? I don't know the final answer yet, or even if there is one. When you are dealing with infinity as a single concept, then the concept of 'one' is meaningless.

The other idea I cogitate on and try to unravel is just what exactly is 'present time'. For a being who is in no-time and can be at any time point anywhere, just wat is meant by this thing called "present time'. It seems to me to be just "total focus on one tiny sliver of infinite time".

But again, I'm still learning.

I feel the thetan is what we define the thetan to be - Literally. I believe that we have the ability to create anything. To me, a thetan was Ron's invitation to create the idea of an individual spiritual consciousness, a unit beingness, a Casper the Ghost part of us. In was an invitation to create three parts of our self, a body, a mind and a spirit. And that's what I feel I did, I created three parts of myself, and three parts of me instantaneously came into existence.

There was the idea of one's own universe in expressed in Scientology 8-8008 (The attainment of infinity for self by reducing the apparent infinity of the physical universe to zero, and the raising of the apparent zero of one's own universe to infinity.) In the book, I was invited to consider that the law of my universe was, instantaneous creation without argument. I say there an elephant, and there is one. I say there is a thetan, and there is one.

I suspect that it is that way for any universe, and my alien friend Bashar agrees. The only problem is that when I say there's an elephant in the physical universe, I have a programmed belief system that says there is not.

I feel that ultimately we are an unlimited consciousnesses, a conscious potential capable of being anything. (Knowest thou the Meaning of Potential?)


Again my alien friend Bashar says that things are what they are defined to be.

For a long time I wondered where all the thetans came from. Then I hit on the idea that they came from my idea that there were a lot of thetans, and that worked for me.

I figure there is a "higher Self" part of us, when we consider there is. Bashar once asked me what I was up to, and I told him I was channeling my lower self, and at that time, I was empowering a lower self, that the quantum field, or the unlimited part of me, materialized into existence.

I have been blessed with an experience of experiencing myself to be the creator of it all. However, when I go back to considering I am just some guy spitting out some answers on ESMB, that seems to be what i am, for that is what I am defining or considering myself to be at that instant.


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Thanks again.

"what exactly is a thetan?"

Is he a unit being? Or does he exist across all of his dynamics simultaneously while viewing only the tiny tiny portion he calls "self"? The more I look at it the more I tend to the latter viewpoint.

Yes he exists across the dynamics, and yes he is an individual being when we consider he is. Yes, it's confusing when we consider we decide we do not know, or it is a mystery, for that is what we are creating and energizing at the moment.

Is Betsy just yourself on a broader unviewed dynamic or is she indeed a fully separate being?

Yes Betsy is just myself on a broader unviewed dynamic, and yes Betsy is experienced by me as an individual "Thetan" when I consider she is, and I address her that way.

As for present time. I feel this too is what we define it to be. It can be an awareness of the entire cosmos, or the acute awareness that i am sitting in a chair writing this post.

Once I had this big realization in a channeling session with Bashar and I said. "Bashar", "Yes Strawberry" he replied, (his pet name for me.)

"To what degree am I taking to myself?, I asked.

"Oh, one hundred percent he replied".

However, when I felt I was talking to an individualized personality that was an OT ET named Bashar, that is who I was talking to.

Hope you found this of value. Best John

 

[The Great Zorg]

Money money money

The primary motivator for inventing and the quashing of these inventions by those only interested in maintaining the status quo is money. Even the most noble inventor will have a price for his (or her) silence.

One thing that has changed recently is the internet. One can post anything here and before long it is copied everywhere. Let any government try and control or stop a chain reaction like that! So why haven't all of these inventors and inventions that the last dozen posters have mentioned just put their invention on the internet? Maybe because they will not be able to profit from widespread public domain? :confused2:

As far as 100+ mpg carburetors; they are no doubt possible: the more vaporized and mixed the fuel is the more complete and efficient will be the combustion/energy transfer. With all the technology at our fingertips these days how is it that a better fuel system has not been invented again? ...and again? ...and again?

I forget where I read it, but I think the big clam himself once wrote that there are 8 types of lighter than air travel and only the airplane was made popular. Coming from a clown that created a cult in order to have anyone on earth think well of him... well, serves me right for believing 100% in the rantings of a greedy, evil madman.

 

[The Magic Thetan]

Veda, I simply do not agree with your claim above that Scientology does not produce any state of OT per se. I have OT like abilities which Scientology helped me bring to the fore. The Magic Thetan lives in a world of OT like abilities much greater than mine. Face pulled off an OT like ability in cheating death and redeveloping his skills which the medicos told him would never happen.

I have the ability to pick up the thoughts of many if not most people. I learned to do accupressure message from an accupressure therapist and that had not much to do with Scientology. However, I did use the theory in the assists pack, relating as to why touch assists had workability, why contact assists worked and why the body comm process worked. I also picked up some theory from my study of OT III and NOTS relating to living beings beings being present around people's bodies or inhabiting their spaces.

Using my ability to pick up thoughts, plus accupressure tech plus some of Hubbard's theories, I have over the years formed my own healing therapy which only recently I brought out of the moth balls and began using heavily. The results have been just spectacular!! I did two sessions yesterday, one live and one by phone and I solved two enormous problems which two women, who are best friends were having. Both my sessions took 45 minutes. Had they gone to traditional medicine, they would have been prescribed drugs, had they gone to C of S, they might have gotten some help if they had a good C/S and a good auditor and spent $10,000. Probably Carmelo could have handled them, the chances are that Roger could have given them some processes which are likely to have handled them but I was able to do it on both women in in 45 minute sessions I did this for free asking nothing in return.

I have an ability to pick up the thoughts of the person I am working on. They know it and I know it. No naysayer on ESMB can negate that effectively. What is happening is that I find the harmful thought or thoughts which are causing them physical or mental trauma and indicate that to them and get them to talk about it. I then steer the conversation towards getting rid of that thought.

The biggest trouble I am having is that they want me to tell them the answer to their dilemma while I am insisting that they must see it for themselves or they won't receive any benefits. This latter is another Hubbard datum which I subscribe to. One of the girls yesterday got very angry at me for not evaluating for her and giving her the answer and she got into the anger band. She said, "Fuck this, I asked you for some help, and you have my problem all figured and and instead of giving me the answer , you are just fucking around with me and playing games. I don't want to do this anymore." I acted bored and just said, "Yea, well in my technique the person usually gets very angry with me right before they make their final breakthrough and blow their problem. We are right where I want us to be and now you are fucking around, attacking me instead of doing your final steps, well I can end this session off right here or you can do what I tell you and in a matter of minutes your problem will be solved." She said, "Okay, what do you want me to do?" I said in a bored voice, "I want you to imagine in your mind the ending you want to occur between you and your former boyfriend" She asked for some clarification. I said, you have got to have an idea in your mind of how you want to feel when this session is over and how you want him to feel as well. She thought for awhile and said, well I realize that our relationship has to end now, its the best thing for both of us, but I want him to feel cool about it as well and come to the same realization as I did and I don't want to cause him additional pain. I acknowledged that and told her to imagine that the outcome she had just describe was now fact. All of a sudden she shot way up the tone scale. She said, "I see it now, yes, its all resolving for me, its resolvingl. She said, "Oh thank you so much for doing this for me and staying with me when I was attacking and insulting you" You are such a great friend. I asked if there was anything else she wanted to say and she said no and I have this new phrase I use now which is "You did well so enjoy your win, you earned it." She said, the problem I was having is totally gone its just not there anymore. She asked again, do you think my ex boyfriend is as cool with things as I am. I said, "What do you think?" She said she hoped he was but asked me again, Really what do you think? I said, I feel that he is totally cool with this outcome as well (which was true). She asked, "Is that something new you saw or did you see it before?" I said that I only noticed it just after she had her epiphany. She was totally happy and relieved. We agreed to talk the next day and that was that.

A long term problem, handled in a 45 minute session over the phone, done for free to a new friend with nothing asked in return. To me that shows some OT abilities. I would rather be able to do that than knock someone's hat off from 50' away. I can't do the hat knock off trick but I can do the above session so to me, it is an OT ability.
Lakey

Great Job. Nice auditing. Nice caring. I love it.

 

[Hatshepsut]

duplicate

 

[Hatshepsut]

Mewhahaha! - I just found the pics of KULULA AIR's flying cucumber that CarmeloOrchards posted way back in the thread, at page 518!

This is veryfied on Snopes! - A joke, but true! - There's a video on the Snopes page with a recording of the preflight security announcement.. That's enough to make people with no humour want to get off! - Mewhahaha!

(Erh.. I was actually looking for.. What was it now? - Afaceinthecrowd's pics of a Cessna 310 I think it was.. Never found that..)

Good plane for you. Matches your cap. I've been rehearsing the funny dialogues recorded as being directed to the passengers in the OP on this. Heeeheeee. Emailed to everybody. Ready for takeoff I am!!

 

[Hatshepsut]

Not a problem. All you've got left is the original jewish cult that jesus established and its first century jewish roots. John, whether he was of the jewish church or the later pauline church, was evidently in the spirit of the first century jewish hopes in an apocalypse. I'm good with that.


Mark A. Baker

New World Encyclopedia
Modern criticism

With the advent of modern biblical criticism, many scholars, both secular and Christian, came to believe that John the Evangelist (who wrote the Gospel of John), and John of Patmos were two separate individuals. They point to several lines of evidence suggesting that John of Patmos wrote only Revelation, not the Gospel of John or the epistles of John. For one, the author of Revelation identifies himself as "John" several times, but the author of the Gospel of John and the writer of the epistles of "John" never identify themselves by name.

In contrast to the author of the Gospel of John, John of Patmos speaks very much as a Jewish Christian, referring to Jesus as he who "holds the key of David" (3:7) and the "Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David." (5:5) He also condemns the careless attitude of some of the Pauline churches who permitted eating food which had been offered to idols (2:14, 2:20). Moreover, for John of Patmos, the "elect" saints are not Gentile Christians but "144,000 from all the tribes of Israel," with 12,000 coming from each specifically-named tribe (7:4-8). A great multitude of Gentiles "from every nation" are also included, but not among the 144,000 (7:9)

 

[Hatshepsut]

Nikola Tesla is turning over in his grave in a good way with this.

Maybe the fucking government will leave them alone this time.

There is also a secret and similar project coming out of Australia.

I assume this could be used in cars to power a hydraulic accumulator or generator/battery combo.

Airplanes too, where the reliability would probably match turbines or better.
Weight might be a problem though.


Much to my surprise Tesla was channeled on my questions on 12 June 10.

He said his magnetic planet field oscillator electricity generating device was not quite perfected before, implying that he knows the missing bit now.

He predicted that in 2023 a Time Travel Device will arrive. The government already has one at Mountauk Point, Long Island, but I am certain he means it would be an open accepted tech by that point, saying also 2012 will be an initial gradient starting point.
This is a necessary device to build ships for distant "light year" travel.

Tesla told me that he (using his cousin) blew up his own power generating tower on Long Island, because he was pissed at J.P. Morgan (a suppressive).

He maintains a research group of beings over many lifetimes.

Tesla is operating multiple bodies now.

There is more, but it is personal.

Tesla has been coming up a lot these days. Hugh Jackman (X men Origens Wolverine) actually made two films where this genius was taken up. The Prestige a film about disappearing and reappearing in a magic act. And then there was I think Kate and Leopold where he time traveled from the 1800s designing of the Brooklyn Bridge to actual latter day Manhanttan. Theres something magical about this guy. Shissssssh booom....."I go to Rio......de Janiero....

(Boy From OZ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpU93XJic7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deHC3qbyOfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDstY67gCv4
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[lkwdblds]

I like this entire post but love the bold print section the most!

"what exactly is a thetan?"

Is he a unit being? Or does he exist across all of his dynamics simultaneously while viewing only the tiny tiny portion he calls "self"? The more I look at it the more I tend to the latter viewpoint.

Yes he exists across the dynamics, and yes he is an individual being when we consider he is. Yes, it's confusing when we consider we decide we do not know, or it is a mystery, for that is what we are creating and energizing at the moment.

Is Betsy just yourself on a broader unviewed dynamic or is she indeed a fully separate being?

Yes Betsy is just myself on a broader unviewed dynamic, and yes Betsy is experienced by me as an individual "Thetan" when I consider she is, and I address her that way.

As for present time. I feel this too is what we define it to be. It can be an awareness of the entire cosmos, or the acute awareness that i am sitting in a chair writing this post.

Once I had this big realization in a channeling session with Bashar and I said. "Bashar", "Yes Strawberry" he replied, (his pet name for me.)

"To what degree am I taking to myself?, I asked.

"Oh, one hundred percent he replied".

However, when I felt I was talking to an individualized personality that was an OT ET named Bashar, that is who I was talking to.

Hope you found this of value. Best John

I like all of this post very much but love the following the most!!

Quote from Johnny!
"I feel the thetan is what we define the thetan to be - Literally. I believe that we have the ability to create anything. To me, a thetan was Ron's invitation to create the idea of an individual spiritual consciousness, a unit beingness, a Casper the Ghost part of us. In was an invitation to create three parts of our self, a body, a mind and a spirit. And that's what I feel I did, I created three parts of myself, and three parts of me instantaneously came into existence.

There was the idea of one's own universe in expressed in Scientology 8-8008 (The attainment of infinity for self by reducing the apparent infinity of the physical universe to zero, and the raising of the apparent zero of one's own universe to infinity.) In the book, I was invited to consider that the law of my universe was, instantaneous creation without argument. I say there an elephant, and there is one. I say there is a thetan, and there is one.

I suspect that it is that way for any universe, and my alien friend Bashar agrees."
....snip....

The simplicity of this above quote from Johnny says so much, and in a poetic form. Great truths are often expressed simply and poetically and this is one such case. Simple and direct, the truth of the statement is almost blinding in its brilliance!

Here is another of my favorite quotes of Johnny from the post:

As for present time. I feel this too is what we define it to be. It can be an awareness of the entire cosmos, or the acute awareness that i am sitting in a chair writing this post

Time is often difficult to describe with words. Trying to describe time without refering to some matter moving from one place to a different place is usually nigh on to impossible. Here Johnny says, "As for present time, I feel this too is what we define it to be." This simple statement to me, takes time out of the mystery band, the band where only a few super geniuses at Cal Tech or MIT can understand and the dissertations to explain present time require knowledge of advanced mathematics and pages and pages of non understandable scientific language with Latin and Greek terms.

Instead of all the bric-a-brac it states that present time is what we define it to be. This simple statement magically puts us at cause over what present time is and magically removes all the mystery, advanced mathematics, and ultra lengthy and complex words which are normally involved in trying to explain what it is.
Lakey

 

[Hatshepsut]

Originally Posted by CarmeloOrchards View Post
Magnetic Air Generators, Inc. ~ 521 Charcot Avenue ~ San Jose, CA 95131

August 19, 2010
PRESS RELEASE
SAN JOSE, CA – Magnetic Air Generators, Inc. announced today that is has successfully completed a scheduled test of its new powerful magnetic motor. The new motor design is believed to be the lightest and most powerful modular magnetic motor in the world.

Last week I was trying to put my dad to bed using a Hoyer lift. He is paralyzed and has had a stroke and is 77. I saw on television how these two repelling magnets used in an undercarriage as a motor could give you sort of anti gravity. Magnets should be cheap. It is so hard to give home care to an invalid. You have to pay someone young and strong just come in once or twice briefly each week so you can get your loved one into the tub or into the massage chair. I mean this technology would turn peoples lives around. How come we got no down to earth inventions on this stuff.

Hitler probably had magnetics going:confused2:

 

[lkwdblds]

Thanks Johnny for the nice ack.

Great Job. Nice auditing. Nice caring. I love it.

I had thought the post might be too long and had too much me, me, me in it. I tried to edit it down but could only eliminate a small portion of it without destroying the content. I put a lot of time into writing it and decided to just run with it.

One thing I am seeing in doing these informal type sessions on friends and acquaintances is that one's "Carrier Wave" is quite a bit senior to the wording of the process used. I was initially worried about a session freezing up on me with no correction list or meter available to unbug the session.

Never fear, just really caring about the session outcome and intending the person to have wins and achieve their session goals and really being there for the person are far superior in getting a good result to the wording of the process which is used. Carmelo pioneered this type of thinking in me. Without reading his frequent discertations of his auditing style, I would have remained forever a standard Hubbard Model Session type of guy afraid to attempt to help someone through a session without owning a meter or being certified on a specific level. Johnny has not actually discussed the form in which his sessions occur but I am thinking that they are given similarly to how Carmelo delivers them. I decided that I could do that effectively and gave it a shot and thanks to my two mentors, some people have been helped by my actions and I am gaining more self confidence in beliveing that I can audit. Eat your heart out Don Keeler but never fear, I realize that you were successful in helping many others in your long and storied career auditing and C/Sing and you called 'em as you saw "em and did much more good than bad and for this I salute you and hope you continue to enjoy your "golden years!"

Thanks so much for your reading and acking my post Johnny. "You are the man!" and an acknowledgement from you means an awful lot to me.!!"
Lakey

 

[Hatshepsut]

RogerB[/B];466327]TGZ,

You may be surprised to learn that Chen Ning Yang and Tsung Dao Lee won the Nobel in 1957 for proving it is possible.

Check it out

Why their discovery never got applied is one of those political conundrums . . . but being researchers at Princeton and Columbia in the US during the cold war might just have had something to do with the discovery getting suppressed.

R

Tonight I was watching Charlie Rose. The Brain Series #4. The whole group seemed to be from Columbia University except one. They were on the subject of the plasticity of the brain and examining ALS....or at least attempting to. There seems to be a one to three month window where you can diagnose and work with stem cells before they format into some definitive neorological function. I did not know that stem cells are not encoded yet as to what part of the body they will be controlling and have not yet been scripted as a this or a that. They are a blank slate so to speak. Pure potential. This totally blew my mind. My mind went wandering over the NOTS technique. Then it went wandering over the supposed wall of fire charges left imprinted on genetics. The one area seems to be maleable and the other is so very compressed that if you guishsed it...it seems so super perma pressed into its codes that it springs right back into its platform shapes. And THAT got me thinking about how an established time stream backing an area keeps it's identity more or less stable. All the earliers on a cellular track keep its idea pretty much in agreed upon reality. If our cells wear a trace memory of their own evolution that sort of keeps the cells being the jawbone mocking up being a jawbone etc. Get my drift. Seems not the case with raw stem cells. What with pure not yet earmarked building tissue that carries no fixed matrices yet to tell it how to encode itself ....just THINK! Somebody could time travel or teleport if they got a good grip on making all the cells responsive to PT intention instead of time induced codings.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Terril park[/B];466351]Pierre Ethier has a rare tape, reel to reel I think he said, where LRH
reversed himself on the idea that thetans could run several bodies.

Well, maybe LRH was wrong. All I can say I've never run an incident
where I was running more than one.

I remember on the study tapes back in 1980 where LRH was talking about a body looking just like his in South America or something. Case of mistaken identity. He was referring to theta body lines and a breaking away from the main body of theta or something. He was also talking about bodies of data. I was intrigued. But once, when I felt I was about to expire as a being.... when I was in the worst case shape of my LIFE.....I suddenly felt like I was depressurizing __ escaping like an invisible gas from my encapsulating mass. I DID have a realization that I was monitoring more than just ONE body at the time. Now, the definition of a thetan has often been said to be a viewpoint of dimension. But that is more like a specific located theta body or soul in the timestream. That part that floats outside of time can operate and invest as much life as it has potential. Over the last couple of months I have been sort of moving in and out of a certain present time problem I am dealing with. I can see myself from the outside sitting in the middle of this perplexing situtation. I can see that the surroundings are keeping my viewpoint of dimension pretty stably interior into the valence involved. Then I get visio of other situations I am in where I am not fixated on this issue at all. I mean it is very real to me. The diversity of identities and problems and freedoms and doingnesses runs by me in sort of a visual stream. I see that the problem I continually confront fixates my viewpoint and that valence can be considered 'me' from any perspective. This phenomena just started happening to me. I don't know why. Maybe its because for a while there I was frantic to escape.

 

[The Magic Thetan]

I like all of this post very much but love the following the most!!

Quote from Johnny!
"I feel the thetan is what we define the thetan to be - Literally. I believe that we have the ability to create anything. To me, a thetan was Ron's invitation to create the idea of an individual spiritual consciousness, a unit beingness, a Casper the Ghost part of us. In was an invitation to create three parts of our self, a body, a mind and a spirit. And that's what I feel I did, I created three parts of myself, and three parts of me instantaneously came into existence.

There was the idea of one's own universe in expressed in Scientology 8-8008 (The attainment of infinity for self by reducing the apparent infinity of the physical universe to zero, and the raising of the apparent zero of one's own universe to infinity.) In the book, I was invited to consider that the law of my universe was, instantaneous creation without argument. I say there an elephant, and there is one. I say there is a thetan, and there is one.

I suspect that it is that way for any universe, and my alien friend Bashar agrees."
....snip....

The simplicity of this above quote from Johnny says so much, and in a poetic form. Great truths are often expressed simply and poetically and this is one such case. Simple and direct, the truth of the statement is almost blinding in its brilliance!

Here is another of my favorite quotes of Johnny from the post:

As for present time. I feel this too is what we define it to be. It can be an awareness of the entire cosmos, or the acute awareness that i am sitting in a chair writing this post

Time is often difficult to describe with words. Trying to describe time without refering to some matter moving from one place to a different place is usually nigh on to impossible. Here Johnny says, "As for present time, I feel this too is what we define it to be." This simple statement to me, takes time out of the mystery band, the band where only a few super geniuses at Cal Tech or MIT can understand and the dissertations to explain present time require knowledge of advanced mathematics and pages and pages of non understandable scientific language with Latin and Greek terms.

Instead of all the bric-a-brac it states that present time is what we define it to be. This simple statement magically puts us at cause over what present time is and magically removes all the mystery, advanced mathematics, and ultra lengthy and complex words which are normally involved in trying to explain what it is.
Lakey

Thank you my friend. Thank you who who and what you have created yourself to be. I find it delightful

 

[Leon]

Back in the mid 70's I met a man who was an inventor type person. He owned the garage where I took my car for repair. He told me that back in the 40's he had developed a perpetual motion machine, put it on an airplane and flew it and when he came down for a landing, representatives from some oil company were there to greet him and told him to cease what he was doing and never tell anybody how he did this or else they would kill his family. They put a bullet hole through his livingroom window to prove their point. He stopped his project and wouldn't ever tell anyone how he did it - he didn't want his family to pay the price.

My father also came up with a design for a perpetual motion machine, but never had the money to build a prototype before he died, so I have no idea if it would have worked or not. It looks to me like whoever comes forth with something like this, that really works, is in danger of having their life destroyed. The guys who make money off the oil industry stand to lose big time with this type of technology, and they don't play nice or care about you or the future of this planet....they only care about how much money they make. I've seen how these guys operate. They use the government to have their way. They also use destructive force to have their way and are not above murdering anyone to protect their interests.

I wish these guys all the best in the world with their new machine. I know perpetual motion machines are possible. I just hope they can make it through this alive, in good health and pull this off for the benefit of everyone. This would be really fabulous.

hey. Wake up - all of you. Just a day or two ago on this thread there was that YouTube post of the pharmaceutical rep telling you that medicines are not meant to be good for you, they are meant to make money for the manufacturers.

OK? You got that now?

So what makes you then think that anyone wants the cost of motoring to go down or become cheaper? Those guys want cheap energy the way you want a hole in your head.

What they want is more expensive, more profitable energy AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET.

End of story.

 

[Leon]

This poem was written in 1875 by the english poet William Ernest.

It is called Invictus.

It is the poem that Nelson Mandela read to himself throughout his captivity.

"Invictus

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gait,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul."

Words to live by, fellow thetans!

Call me a pedant if you wish, but that should be 'gate' and not 'gait'.


strait
   
–noun
1.
Often, straits. ( used with a singular verb ) a narrow passage of water connecting two large bodies of water.
2.
Often, straits. a position of difficulty, distress, or need: Ill and penniless, he was in sad straits indeed.
3.
Archaic . a narrow passage or area.
4.
an isthmus.
–adjective Archaic .
5.
narrow: Strait is the gate.
6.
affording little space; confined in area.
7.
strict, as in requirements or principles.



gait
   
–noun
1.
a manner of walking, stepping, or running.
2.
any of the manners in which a horse moves, as a walk, trot, canter, gallop, or rack.


Therefore:

"It matters not how strait the gate,"

 

[Ted]

Call me a pedant if you wish, but that should be 'gate' and not 'gait'.


strait
   
–noun
1.
Often, straits. ( used with a singular verb ) a narrow passage of water connecting two large bodies of water.
2.
Often, straits. a position of difficulty, distress, or need: Ill and penniless, he was in sad straits indeed.
3.
Archaic . a narrow passage or area.
4.
an isthmus.
–adjective Archaic .
5.
narrow: Strait is the gate.
6.
affording little space; confined in area.
7.
strict, as in requirements or principles.



gait
   
–noun
1.
a manner of walking, stepping, or running.
2.
any of the manners in which a horse moves, as a walk, trot, canter, gallop, or rack.


Therefore:

"It matters not how strait the gate,"

"ONLY THE ENGLISH COULD HAVE INVENTED THIS LANGUAGE"





We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes,
But the plural of ox becomes oxen, not oxes.
One fowl is a goose, but two are called geese,
Yet the plural of moose should never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice,
Yet the plural of house is houses, not hice.

If the plural of man is always called men,
Then shouldn’t the plural of pan be called pen?
If I speak of my foot and show you my feet,
And I give you a boot, would a pair be called beet?
If one is a tooth and a whole set are teeth,
Why shouldn’t the plural of booth be called beeth?

Then one may be that, and three would be those,
Yet hat in the plural would never be hose,
And the plural of cat is cats, not cose.
We speak of a brother and also of brethren,
But though we say mother, we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him,
But imagine the feminine: she, shis and shim!

Let’s face it – English is a crazy language.
There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger;
neither apple nor pine in pineapple.
English muffins weren’t invented in England ..
We take English for granted, but if we explore its paradoxes,
we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square,
and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don’t fing,
grocers don’t groce and hammers don’t ham?
Doesn’t it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend.
If you have a bunch of odds and ends
and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn’t preachers praught?
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?
Sometimes I think all the folks who grew up speaking English
should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane.

In what other language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?
We ship by truck but send cargo by ship.
We have noses that run and feet that smell.
We park in a driveway and drive in a parkway.
And how can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same,
while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language
in which your house can burn up as it burns down,
in which you fill in a form by filling it out,
and in which an alarm goes off by going on.

And, in closing, if Father is Pop, how come Mother’s not Mop?

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT IF PEOPLE FROM POLAND ARE CALLED POLES THEN
PEOPLE FROM HOLLAND SHOULD BE HOLES AND THE GERMANS GERMS!!!

 

[Leon]

Hi Sweetness, I saw your post. Thank you very much for it.

TMT wrote (my underlining):

I feel the thetan is what we define the thetan to be - Literally. I believe that we have the ability to create anything. To me, a thetan was Ron's invitation to create the idea of an individual spiritual consciousness, a unit beingness, a Casper the Ghost part of us. In was an invitation to create three parts of our self, a body, a mind and a spirit. And that's what I feel I did, I created three parts of myself, and three parts of me instantaneously came into existence.

There was the idea of one's own universe in expressed in Scientology 8-8008 (The attainment of infinity for self by reducing the apparent infinity of the physical universe to zero, and the raising of the apparent zero of one's own universe to infinity.) In the book, I was invited to consider that the law of my universe was, instantaneous creation without argument. I say there an elephant, and there is one. I say there is a thetan, and there is one.

I suspect that it is that way for any universe, and my alien friend Bashar agrees. The only problem is that when I say there's an elephant in the physical universe, I have a programmed belief system that says there is not.

I feel that ultimately we are an unlimited consciousnesses, a conscious potential capable of being anything. (Knowest thou the Meaning of Potential?)


Again my alien friend Bashar says that things are what they are defined to be.

For a long time I wondered where all the thetans came from. Then I hit on the idea that they came from my idea that there were a lot of thetans, and that worked for me.

I figure there is a "higher Self" part of us, when we consider there is. Bashar once asked me what I was up to, and I told him I was channeling my lower self, and at that time, I was empowering a lower self, that the quantum field, or the unlimited part of me, materialized into existence.

I have been blessed with an experience of experiencing myself to be the creator of it all. However, when I go back to considering I am just some guy spitting out some answers on ESMB, that seems to be what i am, for that is what I am defining or considering myself to be at that instant.



de·fine
   
–verb (used with object)
1.
to state or set forth the meaning of (a word, phrase, etc.): They disagreed on how to define “liberal.”
2.
to explain or identify the nature or essential qualities of; describe: to define judicial functions.
3.
to fix or lay down definitely; specify distinctly: to define one's responsibilities.
4.
to determine or fix the boundaries or extent of: to define property with stakes.
5.
to make clear the outline or form of: The roof was boldly defined against the sky.



That says it exactly - it's all in there. You see, my view is that we have defined orselves and defined ourselves and defined ourselves - which is an idiocy in itself, since a thetan has no limits, to the point where we are now, each of us, a unit being, and no longer an infinite being. And we have grown so used to this idea that we think of an "OT" must then surely be a very POWERFUL unit being, when in fact he ceases to be a unit and moves towards being more and more of his spread across his dynamics.

I don't think we disagree with each other on this, TMT, I'm just expressing it in a way that makes a bit of sense to me. Hopefully to others too.

Thanks a lot, I look for ward to more chronicles from you. I have been thinking a lot on the "Knowest thou the meaning of Potential?" and unravelling it as I go and will write a post of my take on it this weekend.

 

[Mark A. Baker]

Never fear, just really caring about the session outcome and intending the person to have wins and achieve their session goals and really being there for the person are far superior in getting a good result to the wording of the process which is used. Carmelo pioneered this type of thinking in me. Without reading his frequent discertations of his auditing style, I would have remained forever a standard Hubbard Model Session type of guy afraid to attempt to help someone through a session without owning a meter or being certified on a specific level.

One of the key aspects of listening to Hubbard on the tapes doing demo auditing was how little formal structure he had in his session presence and how much he tended to flow with the pc. A robotic and structurally disciplined approach to auditing sessions is at the furthest remove from anything Hubbard ever himself performed in any live demo I've heard.


Mark A. Baker

 

[Hatshepsut]

Mark A. Baker
If this is to be "The Poet's Corner", here is a translation of a cheeky favorite.


Quote:

Invitation: to Fabullus

You’ll dine well, in a few days, with me,

if the gods are kind to you, my dear Fabullus,

and if you bring lots of good food with you,

and don’t come without a pretty girl

and wine and wit and all your laughter.

I say you’ll dine well, and charmingly,

if you bring all that: since your Catullus’s

purse alas is full of cobwebs.

But accept endearments in return for the wine

or whatever’s sweeter and finer:

since I’ll give you a perfume my girl

was given by the Loves and Cupids,

and when you’ve smelt it, you’ll ask the gods

to make you, Fabullus, all nose.

And here is the source version ...
Quote:
CENABIS bene, mi Fabulle, apud me

paucis, si tibi di fauent, diebus,

si tecum attuleris bonam atque magnam

cenam, non sine candida puella

et uino et sale et omnibus cachinnis.

haec si, inquam, attuleris, uenuste noster,

cenabis bene; nam tui Catulli

plenus sacculus est aranearum.

sed contra accipies meros amores

seu quid suauius elegantiusue est:

nam unguentum dabo, quod meae puellae

donarunt Veneres Cupidinesque,

quod tu cum olfacies, deos rogabis,

totum ut te faciant, Fabulle, nasum.

Romance by Arthur Rimbaud

When you are seventeen you aren't really serious.
- One fine evening, you've had enough of beer and lemonade,
And the rowdy cafes with their dazzling lights!
- You go walking beneath the green lime trees of the promenade.

The lime trees smell good on fine evenings in June!
The air is so soft sometimes, you close your eyelids;
The wind, full of sounds, - the town's not far away -
Carries odours of vines, and odours of beer...

II

- Then you see a very tiny rag
Of dark blue, framed by a small branch,
Pierced by an unlucky star which is melting away
With soft little shivers, small, perfectly white...

June night! Seventeen! - You let yourself get drunk.
The sap is champagne and goes straight to your head...
You are wandering; you feel a kiss on your lips
Which quivers there like something small and alive...

III

Your mad heart goes Crusoeing through all the romances,
- When, under the light of a pale street lamp,
Passes a young girl with charming little airs,
In the shadow of her father's terrifying stiff collar...

And because you strike her as absurdly naif,
As she trots along in her little ankle boots,
She turns, wide awake, with a brisk movement...
And then cavatinas die on your lips...
IV

You're in love. Taken until the month of August.
You're in love - Your sonnets make Her laugh.
All your friends disappear, you are not quite the thing.
- Then your adored one, one evening, condescends to write to you...!

That evening,... - you go back again to the dazzling cafes,
You ask for beer or for lemonade...
- You are not really serious when you are seventeen
And there are green lime trees on the promenade...

Original French

Roman

I

On n'est pas sérieux, quand on a dix-sept ans.
- Un beau soir, foin des bocks et de la limonade,
Des cafés tapageurs aux lustres éclatants !
- On va sous les tilleuls verts de la promenade.

Les tilleuls sentent bon dans les bons soirs de juin !
L'air est parfois si doux, qu'on ferme la paupière ;
Le vent chargé de bruits - la ville n'est pas loin -
A des parfums de vigne et des parfums de bière....

II


-Voilà qu'on aperçoit un tout petit chiffon
D'azur sombre, encadré d'une petite branche,
Piqué d'une mauvaise étoile, qui se fond
Avec de doux frissons, petite et toute blanche...

Nuit de juin ! Dix-sept ans ! - On se laisse griser.
La sève est du champagne et vous monte à la tête...
On divague ; on se sent aux lèvres un baiser
Qui palpite là, comme une petite bête....

III


Le coeur fou Robinsonne à travers les romans,
Lorsque, dans la clarté d'un pâle réverbère,
Passe une demoiselle aux petits airs charmants,
Sous l'ombre du faux col effrayant de son père...

Et, comme elle vous trouve immensément naïf,
Tout en faisant trotter ses petites bottines,
Elle se tourne, alerte et d'un mouvement vif....
- Sur vos lèvres alors meurent les cavatines...

IV


Vous êtes amoureux. Loué jusqu'au mois d'août.
Vous êtes amoureux. - Vos sonnets La font rire.
Tous vos amis s'en vont, vous êtes mauvais goût.
- Puis l'adorée, un soir, a daigné vous écrire...!

- Ce soir-là,... - vous rentrez aux cafés éclatants,
Vous demandez des bocks ou de la limonade..
- On n'est pas sérieux, quand on a dix-sept ans
Et qu'on a des tilleuls verts sur la promenade.