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FoTi

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1969, the current Captain of Flag Crew (on the left) with her boyfriend. Notice the Scientology bumper emblem.

Are you the boyfriend?
 

Hatshepsut

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Are you an OT ET What are your capablilities Hathepsut ...

Telepathy?

OOoooooh.......you have a lisp too!
I fly under the radar and keep off the screen so as to trigger nothing anymore. Its boring. But oh the day.....when I feel NOBODYs paying me attention any more. (Here's where I get a smartass comment that nobody pays any attention to me anyhow.):eyeroll:
 

Hatshepsut

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Actually Jachss99 I do have recent memories of being able to appear and dissappear at will...while in a human-like body. Ony a few thousand yrs ago on the Mediteranean. I later got into a fight with another OT group and got messed up pretty bad on the banks of the Red Sea. I was hurt and could not get picked back up or reassimilate into the main cluster of beings who had arrived. I remember teleporting up to someplace in present day Lebanon. I found a cave and silently died. I let the body die. I got contaminated with some kinds of charge. I could easily be human and could even pass at the time because I was very human like. I have met a couple of people from this period. Most everyone got caught in the fray and very few of us ever left. Maybe we're sleepers waiting for a call to arms....or maybe I'm trying to see the positive side of this waste of selves from the magical to the mundane.

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Nicola Tesla and Mark Twain tinkering in the lab 1894

It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. Mark Twain
 
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Jachs

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YEP, not intentonally

OOoooooh.......you have a lisp too!
I fly under the radar and keep off the screen so as to trigger nothing anymore. Its boring. But oh the day.....when I feel NOBODYs paying me attention any more. (Here's where I get a smartass comment that nobody pays any attention to me anyhow.):eyeroll:

OOps Mistake on the name
 

Jachs

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Actually Jachss99 I do have recent memories of being able to appear and dissappear at will...while in a human-like body. Ony a few thousand yrs ago on the Mediteranean. I later got into a fight with another OT group and got messed up pretty bad on the banks of the Red Sea. I was hurt and could not get picked back up or reassimilate into the main cluster of beings who had arrived. I remember teleporting up to someplace in present day Lebanon. I found a cave and silently died. I let the body die. I got contaminated with some kinds of charge. I could easily be human and could even pass at the time because I was very human like. I have met a couple of people from this period. Most everyone got caught in the fray and very few of us ever left. Maybe we're sleepers waiting for a call to arms....or maybe I'm trying to see the positive side of this waste of selves from the magical to the mundane.

You have such a way with words Hatshepsut.:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

Jachs

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Actually Jachss99 I do have recent memories of being able to appear and dissappear at will...while in a human-like body. Ony a few thousand yrs ago on the Mediteranean. I later got into a fight with another OT group and got messed up pretty bad on the banks of the Red Sea. I was hurt and could not get picked back up or reassimilate into the main cluster of beings who had arrived. I remember teleporting up to someplace in present day Lebanon. I found a cave and silently died. I let the body die. I got contaminated with some kinds of charge. I could easily be human and could even pass at the time because I was very human like. I have met a couple of people from this period. Most everyone got caught in the fray and very few of us ever left. Maybe we're sleepers waiting for a call to arms....or maybe I'm trying to see the positive side of this waste of selves from the magical to the mundane.

Perhaps you could put your powers to work reassimilating another human [like
back from mundane to magical and re kindle the spirit of one whos in that very same cave to prevent a waste.
 

Pepin

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As for BT, you do not actually get rid of them, you are only made to believe that you do.

I don't know what you did but, The first PERSON I woke up did indeed leave.

We had a conversation and in the conversation he was amazed at what had happened and that he had been "asleep" for so long.
He asked me.... What do I do now?

I suggested for him to go live his life. This is a much better thing than trying to live mine.
 

Pepin

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ERROR NUMBER 1 - Misnaming the process AS an OT level was done only for economic reasons and perfectly good "OT Levels" were degraded and eliminated unnecessarily in a bold and ill conceived attempt to drastically increase gross income!


I suppose it may help to understand what distinguished one "level" from another in Hubbard's view?

And why would he use the phraseology: "There are PERHAPS hundreds of levels"

The way I relate to that statement is the perceived amount of distinctive abilities that are Not gained, but merely realized.

Somewhere around level 400 It was very easy to teleport the body, create a spiritual being. Notice the past tense reference.

I like TMT's tagline: Realizing you are OT right now. I call this realization "waking Up"
 

Veda

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I don't know what you did but, The first PERSON I woke up did indeed leave.

We had a conversation and in the conversation he was amazed at what had happened and that he had been "asleep" for so long.
He asked me.... What do I do now?

I suggested for him to go live his life. This is a much better thing than trying to live mine.

Too bad the "BT" didn't say, "This is MY body!" and evict ("blow") you.

Hey, if that happened, you might have suddenly been at least OT 200.

Zowie.

As a side note: When NOTs was first released, those eagerly travelling to Flag for their NOTs had no idea what it was. Most were surprised when told that it was more "BTs." After it was explained to them that, if they think they don't have that problem ("BTs") any more, then they have that problem ("BT" infestation) in spades, most complied, and started having the problem of "BT" infestation - again.
 
Great shot of Chuck Yeager, Carmello! I think the whole aviation world is still mimicing his accent! :melodramatic::coolwink:

The lovely thing is the spirit of play coupled with the adrenaline and the incredible skill and competence of so many that engendered the trust in the pilot that made pulling such a prank even thinkable ... wow, I get goose bumps just creating that scene in my minds eye. :yes:

I feel an urge to relate some vignettes from my experience and will be working on sharing a couple of night flights that remain etched somewhere in my personal universe. :)

more stories please.
 
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Pepin

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John, I truly admire the profound way you point out the simplicity of life and all we create.

~p
 

Pepin

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One thing that fell out of Vinaire's discussion for me was that in the LRH Bulletin about GRANTING OF BEINGNESS,

One experience of someone granting me beingness was when I was at the manor (CCLA), a man from Canada named Graham was there to start doing NOTS.
One morning I took his order for breakfast and in that moment, I felt him acknowledge the being I create myself as.
The agreement in that simple communication helped me feel myself as the all powerful being I am.

~p
 

Hatshepsut

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Perhaps you could put your powers to work reassimilating another human [like
back from mundane to magical and re kindle the spirit of one whos in that very same cave to prevent a waste.

I duplicate you. For me, there is still a very alive "WHO" stuck to the OT identity that retired into that cave. The robotic-ness that ensued til the end of that cycle has faded. The last time I stirred that sleeping python it put me back to sleep. We leave so many parts of ourselves abandoned in and about this universe in an effort to escape into newer more hopeful goals. Scientology was like honey to a bee. But then it seemed like fly paper. I feel the pathos in this.

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Veda

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Survival of the most strong willed.

Congratulations to you too. You are the most strong willed also.

Really?

This is from DartSmohen:

"No one has EVER got rid of all the beings in their space. It is an impossibility to do so. All this self-delusion about being "all alone" is nothing more than mental masturbation. An excuse to relieve the poor mug of as much loot as you can. :omg:

"The clue can be found in two basic statements; it is engramic to force a being to be in a space they do not wish to be in. It is engramic to force a being out of a space they want to be in. :duh:

"Ok, so you drive a bring out of your space. Now they are upset. What have you created? a vacuum. In comes another. :ohmy:

"Now take this further. What happens if you have centres where this idiotic activity is going on, places like Asho's Flag etc. You drive a being out, you are just as likely to pick up someone else's upset being coming in, complete with their own "baggage" stirred up. :angry: :grouch:

"Did you ever wonder why so many people died on NOT's? Why people committed suicide on OT3 and NOTS ?, strokes ? heart attacks ? cancers ? :omg:

"How many people have been left penniless, their lives turned upside down, families broken up, all because of this insane and obscene dream ? :no:

"Do you think Hubbard didn't know what was going on ? Do you think that despite his own phobias that he knew deep down that it was never going to work, but what a great marketing tool. How much cash has been poured into the cult in the name of these pointless activities. (Let us not forget the well-intentioned FZ and RO). :confused2: :unsure:

"Try working WITH those beings around you, rather than against them. You might just be pleasantly surprised by the results. :happydance:"
 

Hatshepsut

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I was relatively naive when I did the Happiness Rundown. On the question "Did you ever do anything 'bad' to named person" I always had a sensation of something getting up and leaving my space. This was not actually blowing charge for me. Somebody actually left me or their attention locked into my space suddenly let go. I knew nothing about BTs. It just felt as if I'd been slightly haunted and then I wasn't. The feeling that presences were getting up and leaving my space was rather odd. Like being part of a classroom where students sitting behind you keep getting up from their desks and departing from the room without a hall pass or explaining where they are going. :unsure:
 

Hatshepsut

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Veda
Really?

This is from DartSmohen:

"No one has EVER got rid of all the beings in their space. It is an impossibility to do so. All this self-delusion about being "all alone" is nothing more than mental masturbation. An excuse to relieve the poor mug of as much loot as you can. :omg:

"The clue can be found in two basic statements; it is engramic to force a being to be in a space they do not wish to be in. It is engramic to force a being out of a space they want to be in. :duh:

"Ok, so you drive a bring out of your space. Now they are upset. What have you created? a vacuum. In comes another. :eek:hmy

Of course what is being handled is co-incidence of viewpoint. Disentangling collapsed viewpoints one upon the other. Separating things out with the goal of arriving at a 'simple' being or uncomplicated postulate. I live in an area where we have lots of slate and shale. Of course a chunk of it is all one rock. It may all be one color. It may all have the same attributes. But it is obvious that there are layers and layers compositing the whole. I mean just taking apart a mass full of engramic clusters of incidents is done on lower levels. Whether one wants to view the life force being released along with old counter intentions as belonging to others could be arbitrarily real.
 
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Ted

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I don't know what you did but, The first PERSON I woke up did indeed leave.

We had a conversation and in the conversation he was amazed at what had happened and that he had been "asleep" for so long.
He asked me.... What do I do now?

I suggested for him to go live his life. This is a much better thing than trying to live mine.


Rip Van Winkle? I missed that part of the story.

And you seem to have missed my opening statement regarding axiom 1.

Keep auditing. Sooner or later you will meet again. And again. And again...
 
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